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Random thought on American Politics

Don't be mean but I'm just saying this that i noticed

I hear it all the time when people in other countries say "America isn't the center of the world" to insult Americans talking about their politics and laws or whatever going on.

But at the same time i ALWAYS see people from other countries talking about who they want to win the election, what America should do with their laws, insulting Americans for their political beliefs, and posting/ talking about what they think about current American politics and policies going on.

Not really saying anything else other than pointing that out because i find it weird. It's not the center of the world, but sure seems like it when all my UK, European, Australian friends talk about US politics more than i do
room101 · 51-55, M
There are two things at play here.

There is the American mentality that the world = the USA. This mentality permeates everything from your sports (how the hell can you call something a "World Series" when no other country in the world participates in that sporting competition, it's bloody insane........and ridiculously arrogant), to your business practices, to your foreign policy decisions. Consequently, we feel compelled to comment.

Then there is the idea that America is the shinning star on the hill for democracy and freedom. An idea that America has promoted since WW2 and many other countries have accepted as the truth. Over the last six years, we've seen time and again that it's nowhere near the truth. Consequently, we feel compelled to comment.

There is a third factor which is, perhaps, a tad more debatable. Since the rise of the USSR, the world has divided itself into super-powers. Not just in a military sense but also in a socio-political ideological sense. And many countries have aligned themselves accordingly. Those of us who, for decades, have aligned ourselves with the USA now see it destroying itself from within. A situation which will inevitably create a profound power vacuum. Who is going to fill that space? Consequently, we feel compelled to comment.
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KiwiBird · 36-40, F
I tend not to comment on US internal politics. However there are always expectations to the rule....

*like when they enact laws made by men that disenfranchise women.
*I don't even know the relevance of your amendments you talk about except I regularly plead the fifth.
*I respect the office of the POTUS although not necessarily the incumbent.
*I am sure I made fun of Trump.
*The centre of the world however is Aotearoa not the US.
@KiwiBird I'm not saying you shouldnt believe or say those things.

I think everyone should speak up about the ridiculous laws going on right now that are hurtful to women regardless if it effects them or not

But i find it ironic that when they want to, they talk about politics and post about it 100x more than i do (the only time i say anything about politics is here)

But then when they dont want to they use it as an insult that no one cares about america other than americans and americans are selfish for thinking the world does
room101 · 51-55, M
@PetalsOfLilac

"they talk about politics and post about it 100x more than I do"

Is it possible that the reason why you don't talk about politics very much is because the topic simply doesn't interest you all that much?
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Reality is that the U.S. -- both its megalithic corporations and its post-WWII foreign policy -- has influenced life in practically every nook and cranny of the planet, and dominated some. The rest of the world tends to acknowledge that, whether they welcome it or lament it. So of course they have an interest in the politics and social forces driving it, since it affects them. What they resent, and tend to criticize, is the U.S. centric attitudes and policies that accept no responsibility for the impact of our world-wide footprint, nor any advice or input from the rest of the world; i.e., think America is the center of the world. The self-centered absorption that eventually led to the destruction of every dominant world-wide influence from the Macedonians/Greeks under Alexander the Great, the Roman Empire, the Mongols of Genghis Khan, or the various European colonial empires, the Ottoman Empire, and the Persian Empire.

What has changed, in my experience, is the type of criticism. During the pre-9/11, what I would hear from my travels and international chat friends, was appreciation for what we did but questions about our policies, and our blindness on the impact some had elsewhere in the world. In the post-9/ll era, they would go out of their way to say how much they admired and liked our country but hated our President and his administration's policies. Now, what I hear, is concern and fear about how we could ever have elected someone like Trump; the gridlock, polarization, and open hostility between the extremists consuming both political parties and society in general; the weakening of the U.S. dollar and the instability of the world-wide markets due to it. Essentially fear that we are destroying ourselves, rotting from within, and the impact that will have on them and the rest of the world.
I think it's usually in response to Americans talking about foreign politics as if they're all supposed to be living the way we live, even when we're wrong. And how Americans ONLY know about what's going on in America, while people in other countries are more knowledgeable about global events. Like when Angela Merkel stepped down after decades of leadership, it was talked about all across Europe, but most Americans don't even know who she is.
@PetalsOfLilac Well the entire western world is more concerned about the West, since what happens outside affects us less. I do agree people of all countries should follow global politics, but I also get why Europeans mainly follow the politics of Europe and America. And I have noticed that Europeans are more knowledgeable about the Uyghur Genocide and have been protesting their countries relationship with China. But you're right that Europeans are certainly more aware of America than countries outside the West.

What does kinda piss me off is that non-western countries will be able to maintain a positive image since people know less about them. Russia has been sanctioned into oblivion, but we're still doing business with Israel.
@BohemianBabe is the east only asia and nothing else? 😂 because europe is touching Asia so i just always assumed they were on the eastern side of the world. But i never really thought about it.

And yeah i mean Russia is super fucked up but no one really cares. Same with China, obviously
@PetalsOfLilac "The West" really refers to the countries that are part of Western Civilization. Which isn't perfectly defined, but it's generally America, Canada, Europe, Australia, New Zealand... and maybe Japan, South Korea, and Latin America. And you, because you're cute.
Yulianna · 22-25, F
in many ways, USA is the centre of the world...
The idea of the American dream is great since it's quite human to have dreams and aspirations, but the shitshow of recent years is hard to not find amusing irrespective of where you are, especially when historically they've waded into other nations to supposedly solve their messes
@BeefySenpie i dont support it, i hate the government in literally every way that i possibly could. I think all governments probably suck but the US is definitely the worst one. Its a scam and it always has been
Glassysky · 26-30, M
A very good point. We’re often scolded for inundating the site with posts about U.S. politics, but it seems like the majority of such posts here originate from Canadians and Europeans.
@bijouxbroussard it just doesn't make sense to me... i dont think i should say "Mind your business" or anything. But it's just annoying when they get mad at americans for being too "selfish" about their politics and situations, but they're the ones always making the choice to talk about it and criticize it on their own

Hopefully that makes sense.. i might not have said it good
@PetalsOfLilac I do understand what you’re saying. Occasionally I’ve had a few issues with people who have never set foot in the U.S. but think they know how things are here.
@bijouxbroussard right. These are
EXAGGERATED examples
But men shouldnt tell women about women issues
Whites shouldnt tell blacks about black issues
A Mail man shouldnt tell a chef about their chef issues
Americans shouldnt tell Europeans about European issues

But everyone whos not american wants to tell Americans about their own issues.

Like i know School shootings are a terrible problem, you dont need to throw it in my face everytime you want to insult me for being american.

I know the government sucks, i dont need an english or british person to tell me that

I know America has issues, trust me. You're not breaking any news to me

Its just annoying
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
America used to lead the Western world post WW2 so it makes sense. Now it’s in decline but still the biggest Western county..

 
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