Putin is rightwing dictator

Ruling a kleptocratic autocracy that is Russia the left should never support him he is a right wing conservative thus he has alot of support on the right by people like Tucker Carlsson Putin is by no means a man of the left.

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ShadowWolf · 31-35, M

You think the left is any better? Look to the past, Russia had Stalin and Lenin. By no means men of the right. Instead, totalitarian left. Both facisim (extreme right), and communisim/totalitarianism (extreme left) are bad.

Khenpal1 · M

@ShadowWolf its wrong to call them left or right.

ShadowWolf · 31-35, M

@Khenpal1 I'd agree. That would be like calling Ivan the Terrible a rightist. He was an autocratic absolute monarch. Was moreso trying to make a point to the OP.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Khenpal1
[quote]@ShadowWolf its wrong to call them left or right.[/quote]
@ShadowWolf
[quote]@Khenpal1 I'd agree. [...][/quote]

Why?

I also don't get why Ivan the terrible has to be come into the conversation... but the "why" question is way more important to me.

Khenpal1 · M

@Kwek00 they don't even operate with the idea left or right.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Khenpal1 What do you think the idea of "left" and "right" is?

Khenpal1 · M

@Kwek00 It does not apply in Russia or China . Historically both countries were ruled by absolute dictators for last 1000 years. There is no right or left there.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Khenpal1 But Russia experimented with constitutional democracy from 1991-1993. And because that first and early experiment failed, conservative forces took over? When people use the term "Far-Right", it's used for figures that want to conserve ideas from before the enlightenment and oppose liberal democracies from the conservative side. I don't see how Putin doesn't fit in that category? Stalin and Lenin were both openly advocating against liberalism from a economic progressive sense, and Lenin even from a social progressive movement... It's pretty clear that they wanted to skip the liberal fase in Russia and go to what Marx predicted would be the next step. Altough Stalin is a weird figure in socialism, he still inherrited a left-wing movement that wants to go beyond liberalism.

Khenpal1 · M

@Kwek00 I still believe what Finns think about Russians is valid in 2022.