For muh UK peeps....how is Brexit going? Are those who voted leave happy with how it's turning out? Did you get all that NHS money they promised?
Those who voted remain, are things any better than you feared they would be?
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MartinII · 70-79, M
I think the response from @Burnley123 is a fair summary of the immediate consequences, except that one tangible benefit was the much earlier roll-out of covid vaccines than in the EU. I would add that some of the negatives that are attributed to Brexit are not really the fault of Brexit as such, but of gratuitously hostile behaviour by the EU and some individual member states; and that the UK’s international influence has not diminished, rather the reverse.
However, the main point is that we are now free to make our own decisions, unencumbered by instructions or restrictions from Brussels. I don’t think the government has made a very good job of it so far, and I doubt if a Labour government would do much better. But it’s up to us, and our governments, to make the best of the opportunities - or not, as the case may be.
However, the main point is that we are now free to make our own decisions, unencumbered by instructions or restrictions from Brussels. I don’t think the government has made a very good job of it so far, and I doubt if a Labour government would do much better. But it’s up to us, and our governments, to make the best of the opportunities - or not, as the case may be.
Philth · 46-50, M
@MartinII if you knew what was actually going on in the rail industry, which btw is not what the media is putting out, you may have a different stance. Britain has amongst the most oppressive anti union laws already, the Tories want to make them tighter.
Btw I was given a green light into the back of a stationary freight train a while back, its all got covered up, and now I'm being discriminated against for reporting it in the first place. Had I not smelt a rat earlier in the journey and reduced my speed, I may not be alive today. So yes I voted for action against the cuts in rail, which will only lead to repeats of Potters Bar, Grayrigg, Stonehaven and others. If you think that's unreasonable, I guess you don't ever travel by train.
Btw I was given a green light into the back of a stationary freight train a while back, its all got covered up, and now I'm being discriminated against for reporting it in the first place. Had I not smelt a rat earlier in the journey and reduced my speed, I may not be alive today. So yes I voted for action against the cuts in rail, which will only lead to repeats of Potters Bar, Grayrigg, Stonehaven and others. If you think that's unreasonable, I guess you don't ever travel by train.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@Philth Some Tories want to toughen anti-union laws, but there are no plans to do so.
I didn’t of course know that you were a railwayman, and I wouldn’t presume to argue about the merits of the case. I’m certainly sorry to hear about the incident you describe. My point is that I don’t think public service employees should have a right to strike, because the people who are harmed as a consequence are the public, not the employers. I was myself a public service employee for 30 years, and resigned from my union when it called a strike.
Anyway, I hope the dispute is settled satisfactorily one way or another. Like you I want an efficient, reliable and safe railway system. And I assure you I do travel by train often!
I didn’t of course know that you were a railwayman, and I wouldn’t presume to argue about the merits of the case. I’m certainly sorry to hear about the incident you describe. My point is that I don’t think public service employees should have a right to strike, because the people who are harmed as a consequence are the public, not the employers. I was myself a public service employee for 30 years, and resigned from my union when it called a strike.
Anyway, I hope the dispute is settled satisfactorily one way or another. Like you I want an efficient, reliable and safe railway system. And I assure you I do travel by train often!
@MartinII
It sounds like you're paying through the nose for that perk.
How about the promises made by the leave campaign, are they panning out? Did they start putting 350 million pounds per week back into the NHS?
I guess 29 million Bulgarians and Romanians didn't move to the UK so that's a promise kept, i suppose...
However, the main point is that we are now free to make our own decisions, unencumbered by instructions or restrictions
It sounds like you're paying through the nose for that perk.
How about the promises made by the leave campaign, are they panning out? Did they start putting 350 million pounds per week back into the NHS?
I guess 29 million Bulgarians and Romanians didn't move to the UK so that's a promise kept, i suppose...
@MartinII
I don't see how those should be considered mutually exclusive. I both want to hear how people in the UK feel Brexit has gone and have my own opinions on the matter.
I'm sorry you feel betrayed that i have an opinion...
I think the leave campaign used a lot of demonstrable lies and misleading rhetoric to convince people to side with them and i don't think your freedom to share your position is in any way lessoned by me stating my own position.
A shame that you make a post which sounds like an even-handed request for opinions, and then prove to be a partisan yourself.
I don't see how those should be considered mutually exclusive. I both want to hear how people in the UK feel Brexit has gone and have my own opinions on the matter.
I'm sorry you feel betrayed that i have an opinion...
I think the leave campaign used a lot of demonstrable lies and misleading rhetoric to convince people to side with them and i don't think your freedom to share your position is in any way lessoned by me stating my own position.