For muh UK peeps....how is Brexit going? Are those who voted leave happy with how it's turning out? Did you get all that NHS money they promised?
Those who voted remain, are things any better than you feared they would be?
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
The sky hasn't fallen in but it's not great.
Brexit has disrupted supply lines and is responsible for some of our inflation. The impacts are more gradual and long term
As trade with the EU is harder, there was is a gradual drip of companies leaving or seeking business elsewhere. It's too early to assess all the long-term implications, especially because of COVID, though it's not a rosy picture.
The Northern Ireland situation is also a mess because the protocol (a customs border between Northern Ireland and rUk) can't be removed without renegotiated the whole Brexit deal. The issues around this have enhanced the tensions in that region.
There are also no tangible benefits.
I was worried about a hard libertarian Brexit and a bonfire of workers rights. That hasn't happened but the country is getting slowly poorer.
Brexit has disrupted supply lines and is responsible for some of our inflation. The impacts are more gradual and long term
As trade with the EU is harder, there was is a gradual drip of companies leaving or seeking business elsewhere. It's too early to assess all the long-term implications, especially because of COVID, though it's not a rosy picture.
The Northern Ireland situation is also a mess because the protocol (a customs border between Northern Ireland and rUk) can't be removed without renegotiated the whole Brexit deal. The issues around this have enhanced the tensions in that region.
There are also no tangible benefits.
I was worried about a hard libertarian Brexit and a bonfire of workers rights. That hasn't happened but the country is getting slowly poorer.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Pikachu COVID has provided plausible deniability. Economic experts estimate that we are poorer because of Brexit. But few people listen to economic wonks anyway (though they should).
Besides, it's a bit like tying to assess the damage from a prior concussion after you've just been eaten by a shark. Tbh, a lot if remainders did predict hyperbolically bad consequences for Brexit that were never likely to happen so it's a complex picture. In short, nobody has changed their minds and it is too early to tell.
In a decade, it will be a clearer picture but there are always ways of switching blame to (for example) govt overspending or immigration. Some will say that the problem is that Brexit did not got far enough.
As for Ireland. A united Ireland looks inevitable because of the demographics anyway. Brexit has made that even more likely but also even less harmonious.
If you are interested in further reading:
Finton O'Toole is excellent on the Irish situation. Simon Wren Lewis is good at wonkish economic analysis.
Besides, it's a bit like tying to assess the damage from a prior concussion after you've just been eaten by a shark. Tbh, a lot if remainders did predict hyperbolically bad consequences for Brexit that were never likely to happen so it's a complex picture. In short, nobody has changed their minds and it is too early to tell.
In a decade, it will be a clearer picture but there are always ways of switching blame to (for example) govt overspending or immigration. Some will say that the problem is that Brexit did not got far enough.
As for Ireland. A united Ireland looks inevitable because of the demographics anyway. Brexit has made that even more likely but also even less harmonious.
If you are interested in further reading:
Finton O'Toole is excellent on the Irish situation. Simon Wren Lewis is good at wonkish economic analysis.
