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Gun words from the rally and the actual facts

TEXAS SEN. TED CRUZ: "Gun bans do not work. Look at Chicago. If they worked, Chicago wouldn’t be the murder hellhole that it has been for far too long.”

THE FACTS: Chicago hasn’t had a ban on handguns for over a decade.

FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: “Classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside.”

THE FACTS: As commonsensical as that might sound, it could backfire in a horrific way, experts warn.
A lock on the classroom door is one of the most basic and widely recommended school safety measures. But in Uvalde, it kept victims in and police out. Nearly 20 officers stood in a hallway outside of the classrooms school for more than 45 minutes before agents used a master key to open the classroom’s locked door.

CRUZ: “Had Uvalde gotten a grant to upgrade school security, they might have made changes that would have stopped the shooter and killed him there on the ground, before he hurt any of these innocent kids and teachers.”

THE FACTS: This claim overlooks the fact that Uvalde had doubled its school-security budget and spent years upgrading the protections for schoolchildren. None of that stopped the gunman who killed 19 pupils and two teachers.

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If you are a Republican politician...............you lie. And it works. Show me one comment made by a Trumper or any Republican that is fact checked and true. Just one. "Mexico will pay for it". "They were just tourists". "The problem is mental issues".............from an administration that vetoed mental health funding twice in a row in Texas. "It was the FBI and Dems that staged that coup".

Every comment above is just more examples of the same thing I'm saying. Whatever it is.......reverse....spew it.......and they will buy it. "The Dems are bad because they are antifacists"...(so they hate fascists-----then the next day "All Dems are fascists"---from the same person. Just spin it...reverse it...... and spew it..........who will EVER look it up?
@Montanaman This is a Republican spin meme..........as usual. NO ONE ever said if we pass some COMMON SENSE gun laws EVERYONE will be safe from then on. This is how the NRA owned GOP takes any ideas at all and spins them into bullshit to convince stupid people that this can't be done...because it makes no sense. But if we pass Red Flag laws......and raise the age to buy a gun to 21........and that saves even one child...........isn't that better than now? A trumper will look at this meme and just see the entire idea of we must do something....as a joke. Circulating bullshit like this just kills more children.
Montanaman · M
@anythingoes477 i agree with everything you said, except the last part. Cowering Police onscene, kills more children. Like...19. 😔🤗
@Montanaman The difference, at least for me, is that I know a total ban on guns isn’t practical. But the same people who in some states legislated a total ban on abortions, even for women and girls who were victims of rape and forced incest, or ectopic pregnancy and possible death, are often the same who won’t even consider the kinds of controls and regulations on guns that are mandatory for cars, which aren’t designed to wound or kill. And the memes go both ways. 😉
black4white · 56-60, M
I seriously cant believe people in our country voted for those 2 blockheads that have the comments above...USA really needs to update our candidates in Congress.....

good GOD!!!! its truly embarrassing what nonsense both spew so easily and quickly
We already fucking have guns in this country and they are not making things safer. Do they not realize that what they want already exists? Having MORE guns is just extremism. It's like christians burning other christians for not being christian enough. These fucks literally want to arm every person. Well guess what not everyone wants to kill another person. What do they think a conscientious objector is?

"Had Uvalde gotten a grant to upgrade school security..."
Well that's your own damn fault. Repedocans have been attacking education, mental health and human rights for decades.
@canusernamebemyusername You don't understand the mutual situation between the NRA, gun manufacturers and Republican lawmakers, do you? You mention "having more guns. That is what this giant circle of cluster fuck is about. The NRA gives $$$ to a Republican to be elected.......and now that senator owes the NRA. The NRA has an arrangement with gun manufacturers that says if we can get laws passed and use our political clout to up your gun sales....then we get a kickback of your profits.....that buys more lawmakers.

So the NRA bribes the GOP to relax laws..refuse to pass any to stop the sale of guns. Guns can now be sold to kids....crazy people......anyone guilty of spousal abuse........no checks...no nothing. More guns sold equals more NRA profits....more gun manufacturer profits.........and more dead kids.

Who can stop this? The GOP side of Congress...........who is on the take to keep it going. So as long as they have the voting majority.......this agreement insures undertakers profit........but who fixes anything?
Montanaman · M
FACT! Police can, and will breach any locked doors with appropriate means. Instantly. No need ever for waiting on a custodian with a damn key!
cycleman · 61-69, M
Every entrance / exit way should be armed and ready for any culprit walking through.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@cycleman Yes, children should attend school in bunkers and forts. And we should flagrantly defy all fire codes, instituted after kids were killed in fires and stuff. Police should no longer be a source of safety and protection for them; they should be the same military equipment-laden masked men who intimidate everyone now.

We should teach 6-year-olds that to master his or her lessons, they must first pass through a military security installment to reach their tiny desks. And then we'll all stand by and wonder in our last years how an entire generation seems to know nothing but fear, anger and alienation.

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Conservatives have shown exactly what you're willing to do to solve the gun issue this nation has. Nothing. Times 19, this time. If you won't prevent the death of a 10-year-old child, then anything short of putting the guns away for awhile is straight-up bullsh*t.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Careful. Your facts might trigger some feelings.
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@Graylight lol It was refreshing to have the TX guy in charge of safety?--the 40-ish min broadcast statement at noon a few days ago--of the state say openly & candidly that the officers involved didn't follow the book for responding in TX to such events.
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@CopperCicada Hey, don't stress! We're trying to figure out what the hell is going on that we can actually influence. 😊

 
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