Well i mean how common is it that a trans woman wins? Is it actually common to the point where we should call it cheating or is it just another athlete winning which is only remarked upon because they are transgender?
Well let's not be at an impasse. Let's try to find out what the actual data is. Not just the news stories of a trans woman winning in a woman's sport. What does the data show?
@Pikachu Sexual dimorphism is enough. If you aren’t going to apply common sense, so be it. The only way to be consistent is to argue there should be no male v female sports, just varsity v junior.
@Human1000 You're shifting the goalposts though. Pikachu was asking about trans women having an advantage on cis women, not men having an advantage on women. Those are two completely separate questions.
No i do....you did read the original post, did you not? I'm just not pretending that i know the answer without actually looking into it. I'm not trying to dismiss an alternate conclusion based on no research.
@Human1000 a'ight legit i think this might just be confusion. It's obviously true that men have an advantage in most sports over women. And if a biological man identifies as a woman and competes with women, that obviously won't put 'er on a level playing field with them. But science has shown that going on hormone replacement therapy reduces physical strength in transgender women, which puts them in the general ballpark of a level playing field with cisgender women after a couple years. However, there's reasonable debate as to exactly how much of an advantage remains and in what context. Here's a helpful source on the subject:
I'd also like to add that the study cited doesn't take hormone blockers into account, which would (to my understanding) negate the advantage of having a larger frame.
@Pikachu @BlueVeins Your hearts are in the right place, and we shan’t convince the other, but I appreciate the dialog. Off to dinner…have a great night!
