Regardless of political party do you think upon conviction of election/voter fraud the sentence should only be the maximum with no plea bargain allowed?
@markansas [quote]One man, one vote, or one person, one vote, expresses the principle that individuals should have equal representation in voting.[/quote]
Yes. I have been aware of this for decades.
[quote]this would fix gerrymandering on both sides.[/quote]
Well, no. The gerrymandering does not get rid of votes...but it dilutes the voice of multiple votes.
As long as we have representatives, there will have to be a choosing of how to draw districts.
I think it should be an open-source computer program which anyone can run.
HOWEVER ..
Direct election of nationally-elected officials, and national election laws in Amendments, would be great.
The nonsense of trying to get votes only in some places would tend to go away, and California Republicans, rural Democrats, etc., would not have their votes hidden.
And the attempt to screw with votes would be much harder.
And if we fix how $ gets into elections, THAT will fix MANY things...
@SomeMichGuy [quote]And if we fix how $ gets into elections, THAT will fix MANY things...[/quote]
OMG. Don't you realize that corporations are individuals with Free Speech rights? THAT'S SARCASM, FOLKS. And billionaires should be able to hide behind anonymous PACs.
It should be a stronger punishment and IDs should be required so people don't vote more than once and absentee ballots should be for cause not convenience
@markansas what a fucking crock of shit your pushing ... ids aren't that expensive and we have programs where the poor are helped so why not issue them an id ... you need an id/liscence to do almost everything in our society ... without IDs it allows cheating easier ... you are naieve
@pdockal sorry you did not go to the link and read the aclu page . and you have not been real poor have you. [image deleted]thats ok tho. was this needed ? what a fucking crock of shit your pushing. that is generally the last resort when you dont have a argument . good try tho.
So there may have been voter fraud after all, but by republicans? The irony if that's true! But let's not draw conclusions or get into arguments until the investigation is finished.
@SomeMichGuy true, but you don't find votes, you get them. So that was just a silly and failed attempt. That should be punishable as well, but proof of actual, successful fraud would really hit the irony home.
@SomeMichGuy also Lindsey Graham, in SC the GOP openly commits voter fraud and has for many years, it just doesn’t get publicity like other States and is well covered up. Lindsey had just experienced it in SC with the discarding of enough Blue ballots to keep him in office, “it’s so easy”, he knows it. It’s easy to discard ballots in SC because voters are required to indicate party affiliation regardless of who they vote for, literally the barcode is all that’s needed to tell the likely outcome.