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Was youtube right to remove the controversial video featuring Joe Roagan...

Where he talks to a scientific guy who links all the pro vaccers to "mass psychosis"?

Although this is perhaps not technically "deplatforming" (Joe Roagan is still on YouTube), it could be argued that the response of YouTube is still the censorship of ideas that might trouble the hive mind.

But it's worse. First they get to blanket ban problematic people entirely....

... But now they've got away with that, they know they can get away with cherry picking certain propositions that are trouble. This leaves the rest of us with less data in order to determine our opinions. Essentially, it means our subjugation is more insidious.
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SW-User
Both sides are aware of the mass psychosis but neither realizes that both sides are ensnared in it.

The only sane people are the ones in the middle.

The truth is nearly always somewhere in the middle.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User Both sides of what? Science vrs anti-science?

The middle of every debate is not always correct.
Jm31xxx · 46-50, M
@Burnley123 I'm actually listening to the vid right now. He seems like a scientific version of Noam Chomsky. It's not a case of science vs anti science.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Jm31xxx No. Please don't compare anti-vaxxers to Chomsky. One has a theory of power and the other has discredited science. Chomsky himself is an arch-empiricist who uses data and concrete evidence to back up all his arguments.

mass psychosis

It's hard to be more un-Chomskian than this. It's a 'world gone mad' explanation for how power operates which is frankly ridiculous. I've read his books man so I would know.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Jm31xxx https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/noam-chomsky-unvaccinated-isolation-video-v236b20a8
Jm31xxx · 46-50, M
@Burnley123 have you seen the vid yet? I mean he seems sedate and rationale like Noam Chomsky. You should check it out.... He's bringing lots of facts and stats you might not have heard of.
SW-User
@Burnley123 the facts are your odds are better with the vaccine but not significantly so. There was a time when total vaccination could have stopped the virus but we are past that point now unfortunately; the variants are outpacing the vaccines.

People who both have had the vaccines and have had covid have the strongest immune response to covid and variants.


So really it's a toss up. Vaccination is still a good idea but it isn't a silver bullet by any means.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User That is different to an anti vaxxer position and there is some truth in it. The vaccines do help and it is significant, just not a magic bullet. We will shortly know how things play out with Omicron but the data says I'm better with a vaccine.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Jm31xxx Link the cud and I'll watch it. I have seen other anti vaxxer stuff before and that has been discredited.
SW-User
@Burnley123 my point was that covid vaccines are nothing to crucify your neighbors over.

So yes, the extreme in that direction is still wrong.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User I'm clearly not about crucifying neighbours. The point is that is the absence of a good reason, everyone should get a vaccine. Is as much about protecting others as yourself. I wouldn't say I support vaccine mandates but I see them as necessary. Like hiw seatbelts in cars are legally mandated. It's true that you will not likely be OK if you drive without a seat belt because only one in a thousand journeys end in a crash...
Jm31xxx · 46-50, M
@Burnley123 https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT?si=ApjccuBiSiuspM_wadWkyw&utm_source=copy-link


I'm still listening. Maybe I'm getting seduced by his very Asmr friendly voice but the more I listen, the more he seems to make sense. So if you watch it and you think there's anything worth refuting, please let me know