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America has been so much better without him being in the White House. May he never be back in there again.

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boudinMan · 61-69, M
don't you worry... biden is gonna put a stop to covid. oh btw, anyone try to get a home test kit or a drive up covid test lately? it's loads of fun.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@boudinMan Biden won't be able to stop covid, nor will anyone else, when there are too many uninformed people who refuse vaccination. That will just keep the pandemic going far longer and kill many more people. We will pass a million Americans dead before April 2022.

Yes, I have tried to buy home test kits. I bought a few just before Christmas for some friends who had covid and were quarantining. I had my choice of two different test kits. I will get a drive up test for covid tomorrow prior to some minor surgery I'm having. Perhaps the availability is less in those red states with anti-vaxxers and science deniers.
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@windinhishair sleepy joe said he would put a stop to it… and perhaps there’s a shortage of test kits because he was encouraging people to get tested before gathering for christmas but failed to ramp up production. he’s also now saying the federal government can’t stop it and will need help from the states… you know, the same thing trump said.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@boudinMan Trump and Biden couldn't be more different in how they have handled covid. Trump denied it, minimized it, lied about it, pushed bogus "cures" on people, and did everything possible to create the anti-vaxxers and science deniers we have today. Biden hasn't been perfect, but people that believe in science and reality have been vaccinated. He'll never have any impact on the others, who don't care if they or their children sicken and die. That's what Biden is saying about the states. If the red states continue to do things that are counterproductive, the pandemic will continue, and may worsen way beyond what you see now. Can you imagine the devastation if a new variant emerges that is as transmissible as omicron, and kills 30 or 40% instead of 2% of the people it infects? It could happen, and red states would be depopulated in a catastrophe worse than any war. No one wants to see anything close to that.

Get vaccinated if you value your own life or those of your children, family, and friends.
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@windinhishair i already got vaccinated... don't paint with such a broad stroke. and btw, the areas in the u.s. with the highest covid cases per capita? DC and new york.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@boudinMan Proof?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@boudinMan You're wrong again. The five states with the highest number of covid cases per capita? North Dakota, Alaska, Tennessee, Wyoming, and South Dakota. Red states all. New York and DC are 37th and 45th, respectively.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

Apparently anti-vaxxing and science denial DOES have an impact. But don't let facts or data stand in the way of your persistent lying.
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@windinhishair

from your beloved ny times. read it and weep:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html#state-trends
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@boudinMan Apples and oranges. You've provided a snapshot of a single day or week out of a two-year (so far) pandemic. I provided the full context of covid cases in the US. Covid deaths follow a similar pattern. The virus has ravaged red states and killed a disproportionate number of people in those states who refuse vaccination.. Nice try. It is kind of like saying Trump had the best economy ever because of one month's numbers out of a four-year term, when he left the office in much worse economic shape than when he started.

Try again. Context is important.

By the way, you can't read the NYT without a subscription. I'm glad you subscribe to your beloved newspaper. Keep up the good work.
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@windinhishair i assure you, i have no subscription to the ny times, so you're wrong on that count.

interesting how you leftists try to blame trump for the economy going bad during a pandemic in which you all clamored for him to shut everything down. he was smart enough to know that the fear mongering from the left would do exactly what it did, negatively affect the economy. then, when things begin to 'open up' and start to get back to normal, you praise a brain dead president as if he actually did something... simpletons.

oh and the graphs from the ny times are for the last seven days, not one day as you erroneously claimed.
@windinhishair Interesting correlation between counties that voted for Trump and counties with higher Covid death rates:


windinhishair · 61-69, M
@boudinMan How does "a single day or week" not include a week? Fascinating denial on your part. Your fundamental lack of understanding of covid and science in general is sad, though unsurprising. Omicron is currently driving cases in the US. The first US case was on December 1. It has hit, not surprisingly, crowded major metropolitan areas first, driving current case counts higher in places like New York and DC. It will move on to the more sparsely populated areas, just as other variants have. If you had kept up with the trends for the past couple of years, you would realize that the current data indicate a horrible situation coming for the unvaccinated, who are five times as likely to get covid and 13 times more likely to die. Reviewing the data for the entire pandemic gives you a better context for understanding what you are seeing. Get ready for a terrible, deadly, and mostly preventable death toll the first three months of 2022, driven by the unvaccinated.

A president is judged by his overall performance, not a snapshot of cherrypicked data. You don't stop a baseball game in the fifth inning, or a football game in the first quarter, just because you score first and are leading. Trump is responsible for his performance over the entirety of his single failed term, just as every other president is responsible for his overall performance, including Joe Biden.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Pretty sad, isn't it? We are looking at a tsunami of cases and deaths over the next several months that will disproportionately affect Trump voters and red states. Had they gotten vaccinated, the worst could have been mitigated. It is now too late and the die is cast.
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@windinhishair the omicron variant is more transmissible, but less deadly. your negative outlook is appalling. you seem to want people to die just to prove your point that EVERYONE must get vaccinated. how sad.

nobody cherry picked any data from trump's presidency... i just stated facts. the economy was doing very well until the pandemic. if you guys had had your way, the economy would have been worse cuz you wanted to completely shut it all down. then, you turn around and blame the guy that didn't want to completely shut it down for creating a bad economy. you can't have it both ways, but being a leftist, you will try.
@boudinMan [quote] the economy was doing very well until the pandemic.[/quote] The single most important economic stat is job creation. So here's a graph of 10 years of job creation, and I'd like you to point out to us exactly where the "Trump Miracle" kicked in. Was it in 2017? 2018? Nope. The curve shows Trump did not boost job creation. He continued Obama's good economy; nothing more, nothing less.
boudinMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues so, according to your graph, there was bascially no downturn during the pandemic. so, what are you leftists screaming/complaining about then?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@boudinMan The higher transmissibility of omicron is what is driving high numbers of cases in New York and DC. There is anecdotal evidence that it may be less deadly, but that hasn't been firmly established yet. We will find out over the next month. But keep in mind that if the case load is twice as high, and it is half as deadly, the same number of people will die.

I don't want ANYONE to die of covid, jerk. It saddens me greatly to read about young mothers and fathers with small children who believed Trump and think the virus is the same as the flu--the same people who beg for the vaccine as they take their last breath, leaving widows and widowers and orphaned children. And especially when a large number of those deaths were preventable to begin with. No, I don't root for death. I just want people to follow the science and get vaccinated, unless they have a medical reason why they cannot.

You don't want Trump to bear any responsibility for anything negative that happened on his watch. His malfeasance on covid worsened the pandemic in the US and continues to. It also worsened his own economy. He is responsible for his performance over his four failed years in office, just as any other president is. History will show that his presidency was one of the two or three worst in our long history. In fact, it already does. Even Republican historians rate him very poorly compared to other presidents.
@boudinMan [quote]so, according to your graph, there was bascially no downturn during the pandemic.[/quote]
I guess you didn't notice the right edge of the graph, where, in March+April 22,000,000 jobs were lost. Just a little 22 million job oversight - could'a happened to anyone, right? [b]LOL!!![/b]
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Especially a Trump apologist. They discard all data that doesn't deify the man.