It's not the Christian Republic of America, so why is it those who are religious can hold the bodies of secular women and of other religions hostage?

I see the abortion debate as a religious minority forcing their views on an entire country and I don't feel that's right.

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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M

I always find it ironic that so many pro-life types and liberals would (rightfully) feel that charges should be filed if someone does anything that could cause a woman to miscarry a sentient unborn child (that she wants) either recklessly or on purpose...

But if that same woman were to choose to abort her sentient unborn baby, then that's just fine? Lmao.

Not really a laughing matter, though. I just find it sad.

Of course, and if a barbarian like Chris Watts or the dude that killed Lacey Peterson kills a pregnant woman, so many of these pro-abortion people would (rightfully!) KNOW that both the Mother and BABY were murdered!

We do not say he killed the mom and "aborted" his kid, do we?

No, instead we often say something more accurate, along the lines of:

"Chris Watts murdered his wife, kids and UNBORN CHILD."

And if any abuser hurts a pregnant woman and her sentient baby dies, that man should rightfully be called a MURDERER.

So why the double standard if a woman were to abort that same baby instead?

Yes, there is always nuance at play, but in my opinion there is a clear double standard here.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@GeistInTheMachine Lol , sure. Compare something that you can reproduce in a petri dish to murdering sociopaths. Like I said, bad faith arguments seem to be your thing.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@GeistInTheMachine If you’re messing with someone’s pregnancy, that’s a huge violation of their bodily autonomy. I wouldn’t call it murder, but it’s clearly a fucked up thing to do and should be heavily prosecuted.

GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Dude. You're pathetic. First you failed to address any of the points made to you by myself and others against abortion.

And NOW (as I previously predicted in my other post), you are strawmanning because you think you can get a cheap shot in? STFU. You're a waste of time. As usual.

The poster child for inept liberalism, and its degeneracy as an increasingly defunct and increasingly morally bankrupt philosophy.

It is true what conservatives say that your type has attacked and damaged the family unit. The foundation of society, nations and morality.

Now bad is good and down is up to people like you! 😂🤡💩

@QuixoticSoul I don't agree with you that it is not murder, but thank you for engaging my argument in good faith.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@GeistInTheMachine So much projection. It is amusing.

Clearly just a right wing reactionary larping as a "leftist".

And for the umpteenth time I don't indulge bad faith arguments and emotional manipulation.

LeopoldBloom · M

@GeistInTheMachine Well, many so called pro lifers have no problem with wars that inevitably result in the deaths of actual children.