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Meghan McCain's recent departure from "The View" and her comments on her experiences there has made me realize something I never thought about.

While on Sean Hannity's show, Meghan spun a similar to story to what Dave Rubin has been saying for years, something along the lines of "I spent a significant amount of time around people who were at least nominally liberal and they weren't very nice to me, but my experiences around conservatives has been the total opposite." Listening to that made me realize that a great many times I've argued politics with people, they'll tell me that people of one belief are mean and nasty to them while people of another belief are welcoming and accepting. And now I'm thinking, does it really matter? If I were to meet every single person who agreed with my politics and they were jerks to me, and then I met every single person who is strongly opposed to my politics and they were really nice to me, would that change my opinion? Because it shouldn't, but at the same time, human nature might make it difficult to stick to convictions in a hypothetical situation like that.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Just because someone has good politics does not make them a good person.

I've met leftists with near identical politics to me who were just really bad people. I also have Conservative members of my extended family who are generous and civil.

I prefer to think of politics systemically, rather than a morality tale about individuals.

In my local Labour branch, there are liberals who are passive aggressive and make me feel disincluded. I thinks it's the same thing as happened to Meghan Mccain but because I have oppososite politics. All groups need a collective identity though and that also applies here.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Burnley123 [quote]I've met leftists with near identical politics to me who were just really bad people.[/quote]
You're talking to one right now lol. You and I see very much eye to eye on politics, but I'm an abusive piece of shit.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@BlueMetalChick I'd like to disagree but...
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Burnley123 That's because you only know the side of me that I present on social media. And even that isn't terribly clean. In my personal life, I really am a pretty bad person.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@BlueMetalChick I know enough. You are egalitarian and ethical in politics but ruthless and cruel in your dealings with people. I suspect its because of pain you've suffered but my empathy would never stop you fucking me up for a few dollars.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Burnley123 I've tried my best to change. And in a lot of ways, I've succeeded. But it seems like when one fire is extinguished, another is lit. I'm not the cutthroat thief I used to be, but I've struggled with abusive behavior towards those I'm supposed to be closest with.

Oh well. I gotta keep trying.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@BlueMetalChick Fucking over bad people is one thing but do you take advantage of good people too?

Is suspect 'yes' would be the honest answer tbh.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Burnley123 I wouldn't say I take advantage of good people, no. But I also don't treat them the way they deserve to be. I'm far too quick cut someone off over something minor just to prove that I'm not reliant on anyone. It's toxic and counterproductive, and I try not to.

I also struggle with violent behavior. I've physically injured people before when I should not have.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@BlueMetalChick Maybe I was a bit harsh. I wish you well on your personal journey.