Why do liberals care more about helping refugees than they do for veterans?

@SW-User Let's not be that nice to liberals they fuckin' love wars.

@CountScrofula Liberal politicians for sure, the average citizen who identifies as liberal doesn't though.

@CountScrofula I wasn't aware of that. See, I keep missing these memos they send out about the liberal agenda. Funny that conservatives keep getting them, though.

@LordShadowfire You think @CountScrofula is conservative? lol

@SW-User I'm just saying, I've heard more crazy stuff about what liberals are supposed to believe from the conservatives I argue with than the liberals to whom I listen.

@CountScrofula I sure don’t love wars. I’ve been in several anti-war protests during my little lifetime. Not a conservative to be found, as I recall. 😳

@bijouxbroussard Well liberal =/= liberal. I'm sure you recall there was widespread bipartisan support for the first and second Iraq war and Afghanistan wars as well as the military intervention in the Balkans and what have you. Liberal media like the NYT and WaPo hugely cheerlead for all of these.

The left of the Democrat party is anti-war, but that's not who consistently forms government.

@CountScrofula I submit that the Democratic party is not, technically speaking, a liberal political organization at all. If they were, they wouldn't have tanked the Bernie Sanders campaign.

@CountScrofula 9/11 was a unique situation. Our country came together in a way my parents say last happened after Pearl Harbor. And there was a bipartisan vengeance mode that even hardcore Dems adopted—when there was the vote to basically give Dubya a free hand to send troops in only one Representative voted against it—Barbara Lee (D) Oakland, CA. At the time she was told that her career was over and she was denigrated by both parties as “unpatriotic”.
She’s still going strong. While Lee didn’t exactly have the last laugh (nobody’s been laughing) she was totally vindicated for having stood alone to make the correct decision.

@bijouxbroussard I mean, yeah. When there's an attack on US soil, nobody's going to vote against going to war.

@LordShadowfire Ehhh the word 'liberal' does a lot of heavy lifting but when I think about liberalism as a concept which is constitutions, civil rights, democracy, and free markets, I think that the party fits the bill. Sanders is just a different variant with more socialist leanings. But they're all liberals.

@bijouxbroussard Oh absolutely. It made the whole country go crazy, but America has been at perpetual war of some form or another since WWII irrespective of which party is in charge.

Foreign policy is the great bipartisan consensus. Republicans are more gung-ho and insane about wars, but the extremely violent foreign policy objectives remain the same and people still vote for that.

You can be anti-war and a liberal, but liberalism is not an anti-war ethos. Perhaps anti -specific- wars at best.

@CountScrofula
I can see that. The hippie movement arose during quite possibly the dumbest war of the 20th century. It's not so much that liberals are against wars that can be justified. Most of us just don't see a justification for most of them. I don't see why it took 20 years in Afghanistan after 9/11, other than the fact that Bush was a shitty strategist.

@SW-User You don't even know what fascism is.

@MickRogers I never mentioned fascism. What are you talking about?

@MickRogers Going with Umberto Eco's definition or something more specific like the BUF's goals?