This is very interesting.

Strange how the CIA abruptly becomes the dumbest & most ineffectual organization on Earth the moment a politician wants to withdraw from an endless war. It's almost like they wanna retaliate against politicians who marginally diminish their power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/how-afghanistan-fell-to-the-taliban-so-quickly.html

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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

Empires don't prepare countries to stand on their own. You keep them dependent on the empire. So it was always going to fall when the US left.

Also in 20 years the US only ever carved out a bunch of city states across the country. They never even controlled the majority of the country. So all these pockets were surrounded by hostile territory which is why it fell so quickly.

ron122 · 41-45, M

Everyone wanted out of Afghanistan. It's how Biden screwed it up that people are talking about.

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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@BlueVeins Just one point. They did tell everyone not essential to GTFO as far back as April. So anyone still around probably needed to be there or and some are probably the Americans famous for ignoring State Department advisories.

On everything else I totally agree.

BlueVeins · 26-30

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I honestly can't find a single source for this because the news cycle is crazy rn, but iirc the Administration left a skeleton crew in the embassy to carry out necessary functions. Which that's kinda in line with what you're saying, but frankly I think that begs a legitimate question of priorities, when we're prioritizing diplomatic procedures with a government that's about to fall over the safety of those diplomats.

But honestly, if we can get all the civilians out alive -- which looks like what's gonna happen -- I'll be happy anyway. It was a clusterfuck, but such is the nature of war.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@BlueVeins I agree. But some in the administration were under the delusional belief that a college professor from Berkeley was going to keep the place together for at least 6 months. That was probably the biggest fuck up of all of this.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

Intelligence and the CIA has always been an oxymoron.

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