I doubt there is a European nation that can fight a serious war.

@EuphoricTurtle war is hell and should always be the last resort

@SweetNSassy Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women. Not bad for the victor, eh?

@SweetNSassy Preventive war, pretty much marketing to sweeten the pill to the taxpayers who will have to fund it (in the very very large majority of cases, I'd dare to say high-90%)

@Bados as anyone who has ever fought for their life will tell you, the kind of fight you can put up when your back is against the wall is in a whole different league than the fight you put up when you're fighting for petty reasons like pride or greed.

The reason why the US hasn't, decisively or otherwise, won a single war since ww2 is for this very reason: you will lose any war that you don't absolutely have to fight. Why? Because when you fight for fun your opponent is always someone who is fighting for survival; their motivation is greater than yours and so they are willing to fight for longer and to make more sacrifices than you are.

When war comes to you you are always ready because you [i]have to be[/i]. There is no alternative. So it really doesn't pay to base your whole lifestyle around it unless your goal is not to defend yourself, but to oppress others.

@Eternity All of that is pointless since europe is a continent of old men and old men dont fight wars.

@Bados you keep bringing this back to offensive capability lol. One track mind eh? Old men sure will fight wars...[i]if they have to[/i].

They tend to not though because war isn't a wise choice and old men are typically wiser than young ones.

@EuphoricTurtle thanks.

well he should stop being vague.🙄

@EuphoricTurtle Of course is also directed at my own country. We cant fight two angry cats if we needed too.

@Bados that's clear to me since I know where you're from but not to someone who doesn't.

As for the fighting angry cats I already replied to that.

@EuphoricTurtle Anything more than the use of a couple of divisions protected by massive american air power

@Bados Isn't that the point of NATO? So that no single country has to have all the resources since they are shared among members?

[quote]10 things you need to know about NATO
Collective defence: The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was founded in 1949 and is a group of 30 countries from Europe and North America that exists to protect the people and territory of its members. The Alliance is founded on the principle of collective defence, meaning that if one NATO Ally is attacked, then all NATO Allies are attacked. For example, when terrorists attacked the United States on 9/11 2001, all NATO Allies stood with America as though they had also been attacked.

Since 2014, NATO has implemented the biggest increase in its collective defence since the Cold War. For instance, we have now deployed four multinational battlegroups to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. Their purpose is not to provoke a conflict, but to prevent one.[/quote]

@Longpatrol At this point i would be just slightly surprised that the badly managed and drunk russian navy could crush the UK navy.

@Bados it's far from its glory days to be sure

@justanothername Would look really bad

@Bados All wars are bad. Europe has been through many wars over the centuries. Long before the US existed.

@PrincessAwesome Do i?

@iamelijah As opposed to the Bombs a Bursting Bodies Flying Feel-Good Comedy of the Decade kind of war, especially with clowns.

@justanothername No the US isn't the only country that can fight a serious war.

@Bados no they won’t. You talking out your butt

@Bados when is this happening?

@justanothername

[quote]when is this happening?[/quote]

In @Bados teenaged PS3 fantasies, pretty sure he's Russian and dreams of glory fighting the rest of the world to the death. Time to turn off the Playstation kid 😆

@Bados Yeah, that's what Hitler thought too, big mistake! 😆

@spjennifer 1940 UK is a radical different nation than 2021 UK. Also hitler couldn't invade so he coudlnt crush it not that in 1940 the UK wasnt a easy nation to win against even if he had invaded.

@Bados It would be a mistake for anyone to attack the UK, even now, they are a modern Military and have lots of recent experience fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan with many well trained veterans and a well equipped Army, Navy and Air Force. Plus they are a primary ally of NATO and the Commonwealth so anyone attacking them would feel the full brunt of allied Nations so blather away all you want about "crushing them like they are nothing"... Are you Russian?