Not all anti-zionists are holocaust deniers but all holocaust deniers are anti-zionists.

@Cierzo makes you an anti-semite.

@MickRogers Then I am an anti-semite and give zero fucks.

@bijouxbroussard oh I can promise you, I am not the one making that argument:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/nblzgj/who_has_the_moral_high_ground_between_israel_and/gy14jna?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

@MickRogers Reddit ? Really ? And someone’s been appointed spokesperson for all liberals ? I guess I don’t have to ask individual conservatives what they think, either; just read comments on Reddit.

@MickRogers I take it that you have the conviction that Israel has been a positive contribution to the Palestinian region with the way that you're talking about it

@smiler2012 anti-Semitism

@smiler2012 There are people who deny that it ever happened. And they deny that it ever happened to prevent Jews from having their safe haven so they can continue oppressing them.

@basilfawlty89 Armenians have been persecuted just as much as Jewish people have

Your argument died before it even started based on your personal ignorance of comparing these two groups when they have nothing in common. Armenians had a genocide against them one time and never had any serious hatred against them prior to that. Not in the same way the Jews have.

Jews have been taking hits from both Christian and Muslim worlds since 900AD. All the way from pogroms, to forced deportation, to synagogues being systematically burned, to all-out racial based genocide. To compare these two just shows you don't have the slightest knowledge of the reality of anti-Semitism.

And by the way, some government official giving arms to Turkey isn't a sufficient point against the legitimate existence of the country of Israel.

@MickRogers um no. Prior to the Armenian Genocide there was the Adana massacre, the Hamidian massacres and more.

I can absolutely criticise Israel for not recognising a Genocide a d for sell arms to a dictatorship like Azerbaijan that as state policy has Armenophobia.

@MickRogers
The fact that you say critics of Israel want the same thing as anti-Semitic holocaust deniers want is extremely oppressive and flagrantly presumptuous. Some critics of Israel don't like Israel's killings and oppressions of the Palestinians and constant encroaching on Palestinian homeland.

Oh, I thought it was because imperialist whites decided to wipe out Palestinian rights like they did to the Native Americans and African slaves and just decided to declare (from Britain) that the land of Palestine somehow belongs to the white Jews at Britain's parliament tables. Not the Arab or black Jews living in Palestine for quite a long long long time. Fun fact, black Jews are being deported from Israel, if I'm not mistaken. So check that out, too. I hope I'm mistaken about it.


This sounds a lot like the same British elected officials who had dear, safe, perfect settlements in Kenya comprised of the whites which invaded Kenya, colonized the Kenyans, then called the Mau Mau Kenyan resistance fighters "terrorists" as they tortured, destroyed, and committed massacres of tens of thousands of people. Oh my goodness, the Mau Mau were so evil for taking up arms to shoot back and defend their huts and houses from foreigners shooting and killing them for their land.


Since 900 AD? Are you including the Ottoman Empire? The millennia of good ties under Muslim rule? There was protection of the Jews. Jews went to the Muslims for protection while being cast out and persecuted and forcefully converted by other societies? Like in 1492 when Castille cast out all the Jews from Spain. Where did they go? I don't hear about the fact that Jews really liked going to the Muslims back then .... like ever

And do you know that the Jewish golden age where, the informally named "Second Moses," Moses ben Maimon did a lot of renowned work for the Jewish community was under the Ottoman rule (which were Muslims)? Maimonides when a group of corrupt Muslims tried to persecute him didn't run away from the Muslim lands. He went to the Muslim higher courts for protection because he knew he would receive justice, in which he did. Ironically, did you know that with all the protection he had there, when Yemenite Jews were thinking of converting to Islam that he wrote his famous Epistle of Yemen where he declared that the treatment of the Jews there was horrible to prevent them from converting to Islam (while he was free and busy making great works without expecting to be attacked or oppressed)?

Are you really acting like Muslims didn't accept the Jews into their society? They welcomed them when they were being destroyed. How about Umar ibn Abd Aziz, a Muslim ruler that wouldn't allow the destruction of Jewish and Christian houses of worship.

Compare that to the one Jewish state (Israel) that was enforced by Europeans onto the Palestinian Jews, Palestinian Muslims, and Palestinian Christians through a European British Mandate of Palestine and Balfour Declaration, signed by imperialist white men in their European homeland by other white Jews living in Europe. There is no tolerance, oppression, constant invasion of Palestinian territory, and even Israeli citizens are taking of guns to terrorize and kill Palestinians. They're even kicking out the black Jews from the homeland that they also claim to share.

It's gotten so ugly that Jews around the world denounce Israel and stand alongside stopping Isreal. "Critics of Israel..." What critics? The Jewish critics? This is not about a Jewish homeland. The reason this is so important to England the U.S. and France is because this is the last call of the imperialist powers (before they started to claim moral superiority and civility) to enforce that they can still control which groups are able to take the land from others. If Israel was made fairly, I am convinced that the world wouldn't criticize it.

And don't even get me started on how Muslims and Christians made significant contributions to the sciences with your talk about Nobel prizes... (which are also suffering from an apparent diversity problem)