Should Hospitals have the right to turn away Covid patients from those who have chosen to be unvaccinated?

@Elessar We've already gone through a "separate but equal" doctrine here. Didn't work out so well.

No surprise you'd be a cheerleader for it.

@Slade Pretty bad comparison, no surprise you'd be the one playing victim here.

@Elessar No it's a perfect one - you'd gleefully let someone die if they had the gall to not follow the narrative.

Since you claim just about everyone is vaxxed, that would be, inevitably,from whom he caught it.

So now you are a murderer

@Slade Taking a vaccine or not is a choice; belonging to an ethnic group or another is not. Not that I expected you to figure this out on your own...

Ah, and denying care to someone who did all what he could to protect themselves and the community, to give it to someone (maybe younger) who couldn't give a f*ck about themselves and whoever they had around until the very moment they went to the ER for a condition they could have very effectively prevented, is not murder instead?

I don't expect you to know, but hospital resources are limited. Prioritization is already a thing in dire scenarios. People have already died amid the present pandemic due to not being admitted in hospitals because there was no room for them, and someone younger/fitter/with higher chances of survival was given the only bed left.

@Elessar speaking of ethnic groups, the highest percentage of the unvaxxed are the blacks. By far and away.

And you want to let them die even if they make it to the hospital and, undoubtedly, were infected by one of your beloved vaxxed.

Racist Fuck!😤😞😖😲

@Slade You can be even lime green, if the hospital is full and you've deliberately refused the vaccine, to then come to the E.R. with a bad case of CV19, the old man who comes there at the same time with a stroke should get the one bed left. Period.

@Elessar Well we live in a REAL country where it is illegal for an accredited hospital to turn anyone away needing care. Even a private one has to at least get them to a place to get care.

So your wet dream of millions of dead blacks is just that, a hopeless dream. Sucks to be you. Period.

@Slade Clearly my fault to assume you could've even understood the point of my initial post. But nevermind. You live in a real country in which you have a non-real unlimited number of inpatient beds in any and every hospital, including private ones?

Sucks to be as deluded as you, if anything. This is from the HHS itself:

I suggest you to stay healthy and not need the hospital for any reason whatsoever if you happen to live in one of the regions where that percentage is about to hit 100%.

@Elessar Sorry to crush your dreams but I already had COVID and kicked the shit out of that pussy virus.

And, unlike the Calamity Jane's here, I never went near a ventilator or any breathing appsratud

@Slade Amazing, I'll add it to the long list of things I couldn't give a sh*t about, lmao. You're aware that there are also plenty other reasons why you might need E.R.? It's not that if you're immunized from covid you're immortal.

@Slade Not at all, if you were capable of reading you would've figured out that I wished you not to need the hospital for any reason (not necessarily covid) if you happen to live in a place where occupancy is raising to 100%.

Nah sorry, I'm still busy with your mama.

@Elessar since you want nearly all the blacks here dead I have a neato group for you to join. They always wear masks (very enlightened) and even cool hoods and robes. The hoods have sharp red and black crosses on them.

They have the grooviest parties with big, tall bonfires!

They get to call themselves a secret society. How cool

AND their gene pool is quite shallow making you feel right at home!

@Slade Which again isn't what is written, you just gotta scroll up and re-read my initial post.

The one who brought out race in a completely unrelated debate is yourself. You're literally debating yourself Vs yourself on my own thread lmao.

@MarmeeMarch In Italy people live averagely 83.6 years, in the U.S. only to 78.8 (pre-pandemic).

This because, when an Italian gets sick, they typically get diagnosed and treated in time, the quality of care is generally high, availability of cures too, and we don't have to contract debts and/or launch crowdfunding campaigns to pay for surgery.

@MarmeeMarch lol, it's average Marmee, it's not that Italians are predestined to die exactly 4 years after any American born in the same year. It's just to say that if the healthcare system here was as bad as depicted in American conservatives imaginary, that number would be much lower. Go check the life expectancy of Sierra Leone, for instance (55.2).

And to address the QoL question, well it's not necessarily bad. If you reach 84 years with untreated/chronical medical issues, obesity and what not then it's probably not going fine. But if you live in a place where healthy food habits and physical activity are part of the everyday routine chances are that you'll fare better. My grandpa is 82 and both swims and cycles at the present day, for instance.