Dr Jordan Peterson - "Medicine kills more people than it saves"...... and this is man that many people consider a leading intellectual?
He's we'll spoken and delivers his material with extreme confidence but crap like this reveals that he is truly ignorant and quite happy to use his un-earned status to peddle something he pulled right out of his ass. [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttqgJQOuTw]
"Now that's just a guess and it could easily be wrong....but it also could NOT be wrong!"
LMAO just brilliant, Jordan. So insightful. And then he goes on to say that medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death.
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1) His supporters don't read books so don't know what Postmodernism is. 2) He talks confidently. 3) He interjects basic truisms (said in a tone of a 'smart dude') with crank conspiracies. 4) He is an academic, albeit one in a subject with almost nothing to do with the political points he claims expertise on.
The internet right really really needs an intellectual. A father figure who gives heft and gravitas to their worldview. Peterson fulfils that role. Alex Jones conspiracies just with a post-Hitchens 'smart dude' performance.
@CopperCicada He pathed the way for liberal interventionism and also the rightward turn of new atheism. Not a fan of his but he was genuinly smart in the ways that Peterson pretends to be.
@Burnley123 His position on Iraq was at least good faith i.e., Saddam and his sons were evil and oppressive. It wasn’t full of BS about 9.11 or building democracy. The former Marxist saw injustice and America as the only one who could do something about it. The sectarian war that killed hundreds of thousands after should have changed his mind. It did not. Ego is the only thing I think can explain it.
@Human1000 Unfortunately hitch provided justifactiom for a lot of liberals to back the war. People who were anti Conservative could get on board with his arguments. He wasn't alone and we had a whole canal of major liberal columnists getting on board with the narrative.
He added the most intellectial heft because he was the smartest and most articulate. His debates with George Galloway at the time were Brilliant TV, not least because the two men had massive egos and openly despised each other.
Galloway congratulated Hitchens on his support for past peace movements. Then proclaimed him a unique specimin in evolutionary history: as the first time ever a butterfly has metamorphasises into a slug. 🤣
I was a student anti war activist at the time and I still have similair politics. So whilst I can respect Hitchens intellect, I can never like him.
@Burnley123 Fair enough...I was influenced by Hitchens support of the war to be sure, but soon came to realize I wasn't given enough information about the probability of sectarian violence. I wonder if Hitchens knew...how could he not?
It didn't take long for me to change my mind about the war, but initially had read enough about Saddam's torture apparatus to think we had to go "take him out." One had to go fairly to the left to find antiwar sentiment to your point about liberal columnists. I couldn't reconcile being anti-war from a righteous perspective with what Saddam was doing to people and his sons to young women. Perhaps the lesser of two evils, but I don't recall that was the argument.
I'm a Hitchens "fanboy" I'm afraid. While you can never like him, I think I can never dislike him. I was a huge Martin Amis fan too, so the whole Oxford thing was just too romantic for me to pass-up.
@Burnley123 I guess I'm strange. I don't take intellectuals, politicians, celebrities, etc., monolithically. I pretty much ignored his pro-Iraq rhetoric. I saw it as ingenuine. Brutal vicious regime for decades-- oh, let's deal with the fascism now. Not convincing.
@Human1000 Here, the whole British establishment supported the war but public opinion was mixed. I'm too young to know but Hitchens apparantly got extra venom because he was seen as a star intellectual of the left who sold out. His brother, Peter, is still a major columnist here and is an old school Conservative and religious. The brothers always had a love hate relationship.
@Burnley123 The left felt betrayed. I don’t know where Hitchens would be today on some of the more progressives ideas. I could see him breaking with some of the anti-free speech/ culturally dogmatic elements of the left. I think he may consider some of what is going on as Maoist.
I assume you’ve seen the brothers’ debate? The brains between those two...yikes.
