But we're the radicals
Yet another individual linked to a violent plot was caught with a series of pipe bombs assigned to several Democrats in California. He's a conservative.
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sunrisehawk · 61-69, M
Most conservatives are not violent in any way just as most lefties (insert your favorite tag) are not. Violence from any side is not acceptable and yet here is a thread playing the blame game.
If this continues to escalate (not here on SW, but in the real world) good people on all sides are going to be hurt. Prosecute all the violent radicals and nutjobs and don't paint those whom you disagree with that broad paintbrush.
If this continues to escalate (not here on SW, but in the real world) good people on all sides are going to be hurt. Prosecute all the violent radicals and nutjobs and don't paint those whom you disagree with that broad paintbrush.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@sunrisehawk there are some left wing extremists, but it is disingenuous to paint them at the same level of threat as right wing extremists in this country. They are less frequent, and usually more destructive than violent meaning they are hurting property more than people. If anyone doesn't see a big difference between hurting property vs people, then I think they need to reexamine their morals.
If both are bad, why is it important to separate the two? Because motives and radicalizing factors are different. And those are what we need to identify and try to resolve.
If you are a farmer and you have wolves killing one cow a night and foxes killing one chicken a week you are going to get those foxes if you can, but your priorities are going to be focused on the wolves because they are the bigger threat at the moment.
If both are bad, why is it important to separate the two? Because motives and radicalizing factors are different. And those are what we need to identify and try to resolve.
If you are a farmer and you have wolves killing one cow a night and foxes killing one chicken a week you are going to get those foxes if you can, but your priorities are going to be focused on the wolves because they are the bigger threat at the moment.
sunrisehawk · 61-69, M
@ViciDraco You are blind. First if I destroy someone economically it is better than if I injure them physically? Second I have been a farmer and in the case you mention, the premise is faulty, one deals with both problems in possibly different ways.
As long as people are claiming my side isn't as bad as yours, nothing changes. As far as I can tell, both left and right have committed crimes but most people haven't. Your motives only matter if it is self-defense. Your radicalizing factors are entirely subjective. I've been called a radical for criticizing what I see are flagenant violations of the constitution and also been complimented for standing up for principles. Who gets to decide what is radical, much less good or bad? If we don't have rule of law that is equally applied, then what do we have?
As long as people are claiming my side isn't as bad as yours, nothing changes. As far as I can tell, both left and right have committed crimes but most people haven't. Your motives only matter if it is self-defense. Your radicalizing factors are entirely subjective. I've been called a radical for criticizing what I see are flagenant violations of the constitution and also been complimented for standing up for principles. Who gets to decide what is radical, much less good or bad? If we don't have rule of law that is equally applied, then what do we have?
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bijouxbroussard · F
@sunrisehawk Until January 6, perhaps you could’ve claimed it was “both sides”. But conservatives actually made an violent attack on a government building where lives were lost, incited by a Republican president. Some GOP lawmakers even called them “patriots”. So clearly, the GOP conservatives have gone further off the rails to the point where they’re okay with actual sedition. It’s one thing to disagree, and to peacefully protest injustice. But it’s another to actually attempt to destroy our very democracy. The latter will be the legacy of Donald Trump and his supporters, who may or may not wake up someday and realize they’ve been sold a bill of goods. 😞