Trump supporters: Why do you think Trump insists on referring to COVID as "China" or "Wuhan" virus? What is the benefit which outweighs the harm?

@Cheekyshorts
[quote]Sensible people, of which Most Trump supporters are, see this distinction.[/quote]

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@Kwek00 I'm really impressed by your "erudite" response.

@LamontCranston If you are a trump supporter, then I'm not surprised for the self-flattery. Must feel good.

If you are not a trump supporter, then I'm just surprised this part is even in there.

I also love how you say that Trump fans just call it how it is. While, it's not really trumps' fans' job to name a virus. Trump just named it and the fans parroted it because apperently COVID-19 or SARS-CoV-2 wasn't good enough. So they had to name it something diffrent after the name was already chosen, in a moment that a scapegoat was needed.

@Kwek00 "'scapegoat' def. - a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes or faults of others". The Chinese government is responsible for the position the entire world is in right now. China is NOT a scapegoat.

Amazing how being straightforward about a problem that our communist counterparts caused is so distressing for the liberal left. Yet the liberal left promotes a communist country, who abuses human rights, steals anything related to anything from the U.S., limits families to a single child, etc, etc, etc, above our own president. Just unbelievable.

@Cheekyshorts I don't see the liberal left promoting china.

If you want it more accurate, you can call it a smokescreen, or a thing that moves the conversation away from "how are we dealing with this" to "who can blame for this". If that makes you more happy.

@Kwek00 ? What was it that hunter biden was doing in china anyways?

@sunsporter1649 I don't know Sporter, do you have some Radio Rant that is going to explain this to me? Oh... and like after almost 12 hours, have you figured out who defines what the american way of life is that all the rest needs to conform too?

@Kwek00 Figures you would be clueless about hunter.

LOL, enjoying those nazi jackboots?

@sunsporter1649 Nah, those people believed in tradition and how great the past is. That's not really progressive Sporter.

@Kwek00 If it wasn't for us you would still be licking nazi jackboots.

@sunsporter1649 You fought in europe during that time Sporter? Or this altzeimers talking?

@Kwek00 History is a bitch, eh?

@sunsporter1649 Not really Sporter, it's just history. I actually gave a course of history to 16 and 17 year olds, so I'm pretty okay with history being history.

@Kwek00 LOL, history, or socialist propaganda?

@sunsporter1649 Well, I gave a lesson about the colonisation of Africa by Western Imperial powers. You can leave that out of the history lesson to make us look better, but it's kinda strange when a couple of months later you have to talk about the decolonisation of Congo.

@Kwek00 [quote] it's not really trumps' fans' job to name a virus.[/quote]

Sure it is!

This is Trump's administration.
We don't have an assistant undersecretary to the primary advisory council on viral naming rights department.

@Cheekyshorts I am not a huge Trump fan, but this made a lot of sense. Thanks.

@Lucia very thoughtful of you to say that. Thank you.

@Cheekyshorts I'm generally just sick and tired or either side never being able to acknowledge when the other side brings up a valid point.

And I found this one to be valid and better put than I could have thought up on my own, so I figured it made sense to mention it before it's Left side vs Right side war again..

@Lucia I understand. I think everyone becomes somewhat cynical if they're really interested in what happens in their country. Especially when the two sides are so diametrically opposed on just about every issue.

@Cheekyshorts It frightens me. When people are so sure they are right that they are willing to ridicule and make fun of the opposition to such a disrespectful degree as we see now "Sleepy Joe" and "Baby Trump" - it makes my mind cry.

What it will lead to is 51 % being dominant and non-listening to the 49 %. And that spells conflict beyond the written word.

@Cheekyshorts

[quote]Because being politically correct never solves ANYTHING.[/quote]

It's not about being politically correct, it's about preventing real-world backlash against the named population.

@Pikachu Well we can't hinder freedom of speech - or the direct and precise dialogue - out of fear of repercussions.

I know idiots will do stupid things. But stupid people will always do stupid things.

@Lucia

[quote]Well we can't hinder freedom of speech [/quote]

And we haven't. It's not illegal to call it CHY-na flu or even Kung flu. It's just shitty, irresponsible and damaging. There are good and legitimate reasons not to do it and that's a good reason to change the way we refer to it.
If we care about human well-being.

[quote] Well we can't hinder freedom of speech - or the direct and precise dialogue - out of fear of repercussions.[/quote]

How is China virus or Wuhan flu more precise than COVID 19? Are you any less clear on which disease is being discussed?
Nope. So let's not make that argument.

@Pikachu I don't agree. It is because of the Chinese traditions for insane food markets - and the fact that they delayed giving information on this situation - that cost us the chance of stopping it. If anything it makes sense to assign the blame for that, because consequence is the only thing China understands in this sense.

They lied about SARS. They lied about this. and they'll do it again. Might as well start calling them on it. Sure it hurts their feelings. But to be honest, it hurts mine too when my relatives have to die from shit they could have attempted to prevent. But yet again, we have to accept that China gets special treatment simply because they have a lot of money, and they are an important market... That's what this is about. It's not about being polite or humanitarian reasons. It's about keeping up appearances to the Chinese so they might allow us in on their domestic market.

And yes, there are humane reasons as to not do call it something related to China. All centered around what stupid people do against others. But I don't know how big of a problem this is. And I don't think anyone does, really. It may be severe. It may very well be minor as well. Until such a study is provided I wont accept guilt tripped censorship against a really logical name for it - Chinese pneumonia. But I am also fair with calling it Winnie The Pooh's Cough (and no, this is not racist - this is meant as personal criticism of the leadership in China)

By this logic we should also abstain from naming it islamic terrorism, simply because muslims are good people too. And they might get hurt over it. That would make sense - but then where does it end? - Should we abstain from calling Hitler a right wing racist asshole, because other people who happen to be right wing might not be insane?

Being generally consistently reasonable, I expect you to strongly oppose me on this. That is fair enough. But I am not backing down on this unless they counter the proof that they, again, hid the truth. Just like always. Until then I will support calling it what it is - Chinese negligence that caused hundreds of thousands of people to die.