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Whether if you agree or not black Americans are owed reparations

Black Americans who are descendants are owed reparations not just from slavery but for the following: Jim Crow, redlining, inhumane experiments for war, inhumane experiments that were used to further medical practices, forced sterilization burning down our towns, racist propaganda in school books, the CIA causing the crack epidemic, and lastly giving reparations to former slave masters.
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For most of those, I'm in total agreement.
If there was a (say 80%) agreement with that in a national vote, what kind of reparations would work best?
If 13.4% of US citizens are of African descent, how does one distribute the compensation in a fair and egalitarian way?

Who exactly pays?
Do we expect new immigrants to pay, who have never committed a single sin against a Black American?
Is it all citizens irrespective of whether they have ever caused harm?
Is it only the descendants of slave owners and others who committed racist crimes, leaders who enacted racist laws and funded racist practices, teachers who taught racism...?
How much do they pay? How many payments over what period of time?

I am not trying to imply that compensation is wrong. I don't think it is.
But I think perhaps it might be better if it was not a direct financial payout.
Rather, I think the best way would be to put far more funding into much higher standards of free education, medicine, maintenance of public infrastructure, and better, stricter and fairer standards of justice.

In my will, I have left everything I own to the Gunditjmara people to compensate them for the crimes of my ancestors.
To be honest, there is no way to compensate for the murders, rapes, theft of land, children stolen and sent into slavery, or the destruction of languages, beliefs and cultures. The horrors of it are so great that no amount of money could compensate.
And the work of healing, though it has begun, will take many generations.

I wasn't aware of the CIA causing the crack epidemic.
I would believe it if I saw the evidence.
Crack is a problem in Australia too, but here it's almost exclusively a white addiction.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@hartfire Nothing stopping you from writing a check....
@sunsporter1649 Only survival.
But believe me, it has occurred to me to kill myself so that they can inherit sooner.
Zenyatta · 26-30
@hartfire In case you haven’t realized this yet, but this post is social experiment to see how many bad arguments I can get off this post, basically I’m collecting data. Also for the crack epidemic in America here’s this

https://ips-dc.org/the_cia_contras_gangs_and_crack/

Also implementing reparations is a lot easier than people think. Not to mention there are multiple and I can’t emphasize on this any more than I already but MULTIPLE ways it can be done that could satisfy everyone, except for the obvious racists with their lazy arguments in this post
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Zenyatta Nothin stoppin you from writin a check
@hartfire I think one mistake is alot of people just immediately jump to assuming reparations is just cutting a check for an arbitrary amount. There are many different ways to go about it.


What makes the crack epidemic so much worse is Ronald Reagan the creator of the modern incarnation of the war on drugs literally ran a narco cartel out of the Oval Office while his wife did ads telling kids "Just say no." It was even more despicable since it was used to funnel money to Contra death squads in Nicaragua.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow LOL, you should be in hollywood writing fiction movies for eric van damn!
@sunsporter1649 I am sorry you flunked out of history class and can't do basic research.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow What's flavor of Alice B. Toklas ice cream did miss nancy feed you tonight?
@sunsporter1649 Back to completely irrelevant tangents.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow As rational as your fantasies
@sunsporter1649 Again. Your ignorance is not doesn't make something fantasy. It just makes you ignorant which seems to be a right wing badge of honour.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow As opposed to you neo-left-wing nut jobs?
@sunsporter1649 Coming from a guy who thinks anyone left of Pinochet is a radical doesn't mean much of anything.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Got your copy of Cloward and Piven's book handy?
@sunsporter1649 Wow. A conspiracy theory from half a century ago. Might actually be more effective as an attack if it is something from after my grandparent's time.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Hey, you are the one supporting chaos and economic destruction, not me
@sunsporter1649 Nope. That is demonstrably being done by Trump and his lemmings like you. It is right wingers like you who turned the country into a dumpster fire not leftists. That is an empirical fact. But I know you right wingers are allergic to facts and science.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow LOL, it's amusing that you believe blm and antifa are right-wingers. Don't bogart that joint
@sunsporter1649 Aw yes, Antifa which has not been responsible for a single death in 25 years is somehow responsible for fucking up a pandemic and causing an economic depression. Wow. Your new conspiracies are even more half baked. Ben Shapiro writes better fiction and he make E L James look like Shakespeare.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow LOL, you keep buying into that crap, it amuses us how deep you swallow that bait
@sunsporter1649 You buy the apparently drunken ramblings of a New York con artist.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow LOL, got your email from alicia garza yet today?
@sunsporter1649 Better her then a either drunk or senile right wing con artist turned wannabe fascist.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You got opal tometi's number, I wanna make a donation