Whether if you agree or not black Americans are owed reparations

Black Americans who are descendants are owed reparations not just from slavery but for the following: Jim Crow, redlining, inhumane experiments for war, inhumane experiments that were used to further medical practices, forced sterilization burning down our towns, racist propaganda in school books, the CIA causing the crack epidemic, and lastly giving reparations to former slave masters.

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4meAndyou · F

I have a friend who is dying of lung cancer. Every once in a while he gets to feeling sorry for himself, and starts whining about his life. He is a white Italian American.

Two or three days ago, he started in whining that he didn't know what joy was, and just wished he could have spent his life experiencing joy, without the depth of wisdom to understand the extremely ephemeral nature of joy. THEN he started saying BS like, "Why did I have to be a slave all my life?"

I will speak to you with equal stern impatience. You are NOT a slave. You simply enjoy feeling sorry for yourself for your perceived sucky life. You have a lot of opportunities, but you prefer to waste your ONE life, the little you have left of it, whining about coulda shoulda woulda.

No one OWES anyone anything. None of us alive today performed any of the sins you mention. Why should the past be converted into a cynical dollar payoff? Will the descendents of the people who were paid off feel as though they were also entitled...and feel cheated because grandma and grandpa spent all their reparations on booze and pot and crack?

Who will pay the geneticists to determine which percentage of black Americans alive today have more than 25% of original black slave ancestors? How much will that cost?

Who will pay genealogists, (me), to determine which American's ancestors all arrived in the United States AFTER the slaves were freed, thus having no possible connection to that issue? How much will that cost?

The stupidity and blind entitlement here has no solutions to these problems. How will these so-called reparations be paid? Will mulatto Americans be forced to pay a percentage, like 25%, because they are 25% white?

And when you responded, "the government", to the question of who will pay...you ignore the fact that government sucks all of its money from ALL American taxpayers.

Zenyatta · 26-30

@4meAndyou
1 I love how you assume I’m black
2 How embarrassing is it that you have to use the story of your friend for this narrative because you have no real argument.
3 you are very ignorant of what’s been happening of last 30 years
4 I’m not even going to bother to educate you
5 you’re post is the reason why I make posts like these, all you people do is get mad and assume assume assume your emotions get the better of you and make personal attacks on someone you know next to nothing about. You see I have brought up a similar post to this about Native American reparations and you know happened? I didn’t get the shit show that you see here in this comment section, but boy do you catch flack you mention black people. I really appreciate your comment it was unnecessarily uneducated and ahistorical and your data is being put to good use

4meAndyou · F

@Zenyatta I am a "you people"...and you are not black...but feeling sorry for yourself, apparently.

Believe me, when I say that I went to your profile and read all of your questions and comments before I decided to answer you in this way.

Zenyatta · 26-30

@4meAndyou yes a “you people” let me be more specific. Detractors, people who feel victimized even though the posts do not apply to them. And going by posts from 3 years ago is not a good indicator what this person is going through, especially when full context is not present. That’s another thing I notice about people like you, this stalker mentality where you have to go through someone’s full page after they say a thing you don’t like. Usually people who do that to me don’t keep their accounts active for long.

4meAndyou · F

@Zenyatta Man. I'm a you people, a stalker, and my friends will be very surprised to hear it.

Justiceforall · M

@4meAndyou just be lucky your not a shit stirrer because they are lots on this site

AshaKenyatta · 61-69, M

@4meAndyou based off your language you don’t sound like you actually care about your friends plight but more so the fact that you compare systematic racism to your friend dying of cancer shows that you’re really grasping for straws and that you have no real argument that already hasn’t been debunked. As for your lies “none of us were alive for the sins you mention” everything he’s listed happened within the last 50 years... the levels of dishonesty is appalling

Justiceforall · M

@AshaKenyatta I think the person was saying that sometimes you have to be sturn in telling another person something or there going to not listen or understand your point. I didn't see any lies that were told, if you could point them out it might be helpful. I don't believe that the 13 amendment was in the last 50 yrs. It was past in December 6, 1865, the 13th amendment abolished slavery in the United States. Dishonest about what is another question I have. What is it that was dishonest.

AshaKenyatta · 61-69, M

@Justiceforall I literately put it in quotation. Also that was not their point, they said it in plain words while throwing out stereotypes and baseless assumptions. But since you have a hard time comprehending I will spell it out to you.

“none of us were alive for the sins you mention”

That is a blatant lie.

Ex.
Human experimentation: Tuskegee experiments. Cold War radiation experiments like Operation LAC.

Red lining is still a thing and I was child during Jim Crow

Forced sterilization was still happening during the 70s

Also the 13th Amendment ratify in my home state of Mississippi until 2013 and slavery was still and thing in the 1960s

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/437573/blacks-were-enslaved-well-into-the-1960s

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Nightline/story%3fid=129007&page=1

https://www.heraldguide.com/news/research-shows-slaves-remained-on-killona-plantation-until-1970s/

Justiceforall · M

@AshaKenyatta peonage, not slavery but just as wrong. You have your own opinions just like everyone else. I won't argue the case because those things were wrong to do to any human.

AshaKenyatta · 61-69, M

@Justiceforall peonage by definition is a form of slavery. And from what I gathered I’d that you and your friend don’t have an actual leg to stand on thus using out dated talking points.

Justiceforall · M

@AshaKenyatta I know what it is, I do know how to read and I read the Mississippi story about that family who were forced to work. As for having a leg to stand on yes I have one leg that I can stand on. It seems to me that no matter what anyone has to say your going to make yourself right. You don't want to discuss things but be little other people. So I think this conversation is over on my part. But thank you for your words. Have a great day