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Re opening is a crazy idea...

... Unless you have proper testing. The virus is still at large and there is a decline in new casrs BECAUSE of the lockdown. This doesnt prove the lockdown is unnecessary but that it is necessary. If you open up, you need to be able to isolate and control the virus or its Groundhog Day for the black death.

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Peapod · 61-69, F Best Comment

To read some of these comments makes me realize just how uninformed and how heartless some people really are.

My wonderful MIL lived to be 98. If she had gotten COVID and died at let's say at the age of 78, that would have been 20 years her loved ones would have been cheated.

Too many people are much younger though that get this and can and do die. We simply don't know exactly who those people are yet.

To die of COVID is comparable to drowning very slowly and very agonizingly. Imagine also that they go through all that not having anyone they love to even hold their hand!! Many people facing a respirator know they have an 80% chance of never coming off...ever!

People, just think for a moment as you sit there at your keyboards, able to breathe. The US is certainly not the only major country to shut down to strategize on how to reopen slowly and smartly. It's pathetic and sad people are so divided, straight down political lines too.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Peapod What is the purpose of the lockdown?

Peapod · 61-69, F

@sunsporter1649 Read the 4th tiny paragraph I wrote.

Peapod · 61-69, F

@sunsporter1649 ...then when you are done, realize just how transmittable such a disease is.

Thank God there is still enough humanity left in our country to lock things down.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Peapod The lockdown does nothing to stop the spread of the kung flu, just delays the length of time the nation is affected by it

Peapod · 61-69, F

@sunsporter1649 ...so the health care workers can be ready for the next wave and the next. They are not so replaceable.

It's not just the number of COVID-19 patients flooding the hospitals. It's everyone else also that normally come in with serious wounds or heart attacks. If you don't keep up with this virus, you lose the war on everything else.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Peapod We have one local hospital here that has shut down an entire floor and laid off over 150 health care and support workers. The models have been way off, and now that the expected millions are not flooding the hospitals it is time to get things back to normal again, before the health care system collapses due to lack of income

MarkPaul · 26-30, M

@Peapod It's mostly genuine assholes who grin at how powerful they can feel by anonymously typing out their heartless mimicry of an out-of-shape fat guy who contracted fake bone spurs to beat the system and vicariously fantasize what it would be like to not be treated so worthlessly by society.

The sad truth is the guy they mimic feels worthless too and so they feed on each other. The good news/tragedy is they are quickly running out of feeding room and time and so soon, their feeding frenzy will be done.

canusernamebemyusername · M

@sunsporter1649 You makes no sense on any of your posts. If we did nothing you would be the first to complain they were letting us all die. You dear sir are a contrarian with your GDdemocrats and your kung flu sinophobia. We are adding about 40-50,000 cases a day. The numbers will be in the millions in the US soon enough. But you still wont be happy cause you cant be made happy.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@canusernamebemyusername What is the purpose of the shutdown. If the numbers you site are correct, the lockdown is a waste of time

Peapod · 61-69, F

@sunsporter1649 There is no denying how badly many people have been affected by this pandemic. But there is no great conspiracy behind it since EVERYONE is getting affected across the board, some with their lives.

You know, I genuinely worry about people like you. You know why? I see the memes you post and some of the repetitive lines you answer many people with. I can tell you tune in to some very slanted entertainment to occupy your time. My mother did much the same. A lot of older people do. It's something you enjoy. But you are not getting the whole picture. Anyone that doesn't study many different sources to get their information really runs the risk of being woefully brainwashed.

I hope you are at least wearing a mask when you go out. Mrs. Jones probably wants you around for a few more years.

Peapod · 61-69, F

@MarkPaul sadly, the only way more people will "get it" is when this horrid virus strikes them with no mercy or strikes someone they love.

If they make enough noise and governors here begin to open things up too quickly, we will have another deadly wave in the fall that may be a lot worse.

Too me, there is no excuse for people to not do some healthy research while they are at home with too much time on their hands.

Just reading what happens when COVID-19 overwhelms a person's body is the first thing I wish they would look into.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Peapod And the numbers paying for the deliberate worldwide infection by the Chinese is very high, but the numbers of people infected and have fully recovered, or never knew they were infected, is not nearly enough to warrant the disruption of the worlds economy, with is even further disruption of the economic and emotional health of the world

MarkPaul · 26-30, M

@Peapod Some people don't want to get it though. I still suspect the people, especially on here, who speak the loudest about opening things up as soon as possible will be among the last to leave their tinfoil hat sanctuaries in reality.

They are a lot like the crazed Mayor of Las Vegas who "must cook dinner for her family at night" and so in her impassioned vision quest to open up the casinos made it clear she won't be stepping anywhere near the crowds she is prepared to put on the chopping block as she so boldly invites everyone back for a good time.

It's easy for cowards to look tough when they can fall back on fake bone spurs.

Peapod · 61-69, F

@sunsporter1649 that is your armchair opinion from sources you have put your trust in.

I trust that it took [i]a lot[/i] to shut this country down, along with many other countries. Even your beloved president has stopped denying the problem. As a matter of fact, he wants you and everyone else to believe he was shutting things down [i]before[/i] anyone else because [i]he[/i] knew how bad it was. Don't believe me? He's on every day to ramble on about it.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@MarkPaul Don't recall slick willie serving his country. Serving some of his interns, yes, but donning the uniform seems to have something he managed to avoid.

MarkPaul · 26-30, M

@sunsporter1649 And, that justifies faking bone spurs? Interesting... Would you like a can of soup?

Peapod · 61-69, F

@MarkPaul it all is a symptom of fear and denial if you ask me. Too many people go through life not wanting to ever try and walk in another's shoes. Sadly they are often put in places of power too and innocent people suffer.

MarkPaul · 26-30, M

@sunsporter1649 What's the matter... crickets got your tongue? Or, are you chugging the Pennzoil again? How's that investment you used brag about working out for you?

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Peapod I seem to recall that it was the governors of the various States that locked their citizens in their homes, not the President. And the President was shutting things down, doing the things the Constitution granted him to do, despite the outrage supplied by a particular political party and their mouthpieces in the "media".

MarkPaul · 26-30, M

@Peapod Is it fear and denial or lack of empathy and an inferiority complex that they have?

Peapod · 61-69, F

@canusernamebemyusername it's why I was mortified that someone like Rush Limbaugh was given the Medal of Freedom because he has been closing minds for decades now. Older people are real vulnerable to entertainers like him too because they are a generation that still enjoys radio. Radio has little counterbalance of more moderate commentary with the exception of NPR.

I genuinely feel sad to see people get their news from entertainers.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Peapod Entertainers like this one?

Peapod · 61-69, F

@MarkPaul I think it is a little of all that.

I just knew when Donald Trump got elected, I was really worried about society on a larger scale.

Peapod · 61-69, F

@sunsporter1649 People are not locked inside their home so right there, you are sorely misinformed.

Yes, governors began to shut down things as the pandemic became known in their hospitals. And this includes Republican governors. Trump called it a hoax until he could no longer run with that nonsense and still have any credibility. The virus knows no political party when it sickens someone.

Anyway, it's late here and I'm off. I know I have little ability to change any minds here, but at least I got to express some of my frustrations.

Good night.

MarkPaul · 26-30, M

@sunsporter1649 More like entertainers like these 2 guys...