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SailorMoon · 36-40, F
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
I don’t remember anyone saying any of those things.
The sole objection was to adding the question of citizenship, which likely would have resulted in an undercount.
Weird when you think of it. Trump makes all sorts of broad claims about how many so-called illegals there are, but adding that question would have likely made it more difficult to support that claim.
So, yeah.
Got anything else?
The sole objection was to adding the question of citizenship, which likely would have resulted in an undercount.
Weird when you think of it. Trump makes all sorts of broad claims about how many so-called illegals there are, but adding that question would have likely made it more difficult to support that claim.
So, yeah.
Got anything else?
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@Budwick Plus the founder is a big Planned Parenthood supporter. Nice ideological consistency. Lol
Budwick · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow [quote] Plus the founder is a big Planned Parenthood supporter. Nice ideological consistency. Lol[/quote]
Well, I know what a fan of infanticide you are. I thought you might appreciate facts from a source you trust to demolish your argument.
Well, I know what a fan of infanticide you are. I thought you might appreciate facts from a source you trust to demolish your argument.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@Budwick Lol. Pathetic attempt at deflecting. You are the one who puts your faith in white supremacist morons.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul [quote]Sounds like you accept that there was an attempt to intentionally generate an undercount 🤔
Supreme Court agreed.[/quote]
That's not accurate. The Supreme Court didn't approve of the Dept of Commerce reasons for wanting the information. In fact, they made it pretty clear they would like another stab at the case.
Supreme Court agreed.[/quote]
That's not accurate. The Supreme Court didn't approve of the Dept of Commerce reasons for wanting the information. In fact, they made it pretty clear they would like another stab at the case.
akindheart · 61-69, F
Budwick · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You have a sick, perverted POV.
You should run for democrat office!
You should run for democrat office!
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@Budwick Nope. Just not part of the Trump cult.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@Budwick [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSXJzybEeJM]
Because this is totally better morally.
Because this is totally better morally.
CopperCicada · M
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CopperCicada Thanks.
Good answer.
Good answer.
4meAndyou · F
@CopperCicada Early settlers in the 1800's sometimes came here to get lost. We have a long history of people who didn't want the government to know their business. As an amateur genealogist, I can tell you they lied about their names, ages, their own bigamy, and a number of other things.
I would like to mention a song by sung by Debbie Reynolds in the movie "The Unsinkable Mollie Brown". It was called, "What was your name in the States?" In those days, the wild west was not part of the union.
Now that our entire country is, in fact, part of the union, those who refuse to fill out our census shortchange the state in which they reside for TEN YEARS!!!!
This is money for schools, roads, childcare, social welfare programs and affordable housing from the federal government...so that is why it is necessary. Books, school supplies...libraries and computers for our children...and yada yada yada.
School systems are breaking under the weight of the illegals here who don't want to let the government know they are here...just like the criminals of the old wild west...but it is their families who will suffer the most.
I would like to mention a song by sung by Debbie Reynolds in the movie "The Unsinkable Mollie Brown". It was called, "What was your name in the States?" In those days, the wild west was not part of the union.
Now that our entire country is, in fact, part of the union, those who refuse to fill out our census shortchange the state in which they reside for TEN YEARS!!!!
This is money for schools, roads, childcare, social welfare programs and affordable housing from the federal government...so that is why it is necessary. Books, school supplies...libraries and computers for our children...and yada yada yada.
School systems are breaking under the weight of the illegals here who don't want to let the government know they are here...just like the criminals of the old wild west...but it is their families who will suffer the most.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Yes.
For the life of me I can't come up with a good reason why so many Democrats were opposed to questions about citizenship. Yet they were OK with questions about race.
Like it's OK for the government to know what race we are, but not OK to know if we are here legally? Why is it so important that the government knows whether we are black, white, hispanic, asian if we are all equal?
For the life of me I can't come up with a good reason why so many Democrats were opposed to questions about citizenship. Yet they were OK with questions about race.
Like it's OK for the government to know what race we are, but not OK to know if we are here legally? Why is it so important that the government knows whether we are black, white, hispanic, asian if we are all equal?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@QuixoticSoul Considering that one of the primary reasons for the census was for determining apportionment of members of the House of Representatives and the electoral college, it would seem that there would be a valid reason for knowing whether the people being counted were or weren't US citizens. While there may be ways to estimate non-citizen counts, there is no way to determine where in the US the non-citizens are dwelling.
The result of not knowing where they reside is that states with more non-citizens would have disproportionate more representation and states with fewer non-citizens would have less representation.
Of course, fundamental to this is the question of whether non-citizens should or should't be represented in congress.
The result of not knowing where they reside is that states with more non-citizens would have disproportionate more representation and states with fewer non-citizens would have less representation.
Of course, fundamental to this is the question of whether non-citizens should or should't be represented in congress.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Heartlander Seems the founders decided yes, and nobody’s tried to push through a constitutional amendment since. They were quite specific in their original wording.
Edit: I forgot the 13th and 14th amendment - but anyway, as it stands the enumeration clause is quite clear.
Edit: I forgot the 13th and 14th amendment - but anyway, as it stands the enumeration clause is quite clear.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Heartlander Brilliant!
stratosranger · M
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@stratosranger they don't call them mounted police for nuttin'!🤪
stratosranger · M
@SW-User 😆
ancientmariner · 61-69, M
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
And in the 1960s the majority of white Americans couldn't figure out what Dr. King was complaining about and thought racism wasn't a thing.
NightGalleries · 26-30, M
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Spoiledbrat · F
No but everyone has a different viewpoint. I don’t like answering questions at the doctor and they’re not targeting me.
Spoiledbrat · F
No @Budwick
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Yes and I’m fine with it. It doesn’t ask for much. I thing that would,otherwise be private.
CopperCicada · M
@jackjjackson For me all that information is private. Who lives in my house and what my relationships to them are? That is about as private as it gets.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Do you have internet, cell phone, EZ pass or something similar for toll roads? @CopperCicada
CopperCicada · M
@jackjjackson Something can be an invasion of privacy, and be necessary.
That doesn’t make it less of an invasion of privacy.
It’s stupid to not call things for what they are and recognize what they are.
That doesn’t make it less of an invasion of privacy.
It’s stupid to not call things for what they are and recognize what they are.
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