Welcome to Election night. A little over 2 hours until the polling stations close and the race begins.
This will be an election night chat thread. Anyone in the UK , regardless of your political persuasion , is welcome to join in. The only rule is that everyone is polite to each other. People may disagree but anyone resorting to trolling , name calling or being abusive will be asked to refrain , leave the thread or even be blocked.
So , inspired by @ArtieKat , have you got your election night drink and nibbles. I've got mine
The very fabric of democracy is on trial in this election. For example, Parliament originally voted to respect the referendum, then many MPs dismissed the result as "populism". In Scotland they all promised to respect the independence referendum but, when the result didn't go their way, the nationalists chose to disregard it. Will the British public now stand up and demand that the democratic majority view be upheld?
@SW-User I have no idea.No Blairs on the horizon.The real problem is Scotland.As long as the SNP retain their position Labour cannot win an Election.They had the highest percentage of the vote in Wales despite losing six seats.
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Just noticed first time ever that nationalist MPs at Westminster outnumber unionist MPs for Northern Ireland. 🤔 United Ireland within sight?
@walabby As I have said to others, I have no ideological objection to self-determination. There'll be a united Ireland well before the people of Scotland will vote to leave Nanny.... Once the UK is out of the EU and the Scots have to face the reality that they are not going to have some VIP pass to join the EU as a sovereign state the majority will not take that risk. Scotland does not have sufficient GDP to keep them in the manner they want to be kept.
@walabby I sincerely believe that Trump's statement that the way is now clear for a substantial trade deal between the UK and the US wiil prove to be true; I also see increased trading opportunities between the UK and Australasia.
1 Houghton and Sunderland South will be the first to declare
2 it could be an uncomfortable night for a few household names
Dominic Raab faces a fight in Esher and Walton Dennis Skinner in Bolsover is not a formality The SNP would dearly love to un-seat Jo Swinson in East Dunbartonshire Ian Duncan Smith in Chingford and Woodford Green is high on the labour wish list
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So it comes to a close. It's been a pleasure guys
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@SW-User thanks for hosting sorry but I need my 8 hours sleep or I'm done for these days so I didn't contribute much.
@SW-User I'm impressed! Well done you for doing this. Inspired 👏
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When you look at it , in his 100+ days as Tory Leader and PM he has re-beanded the Tory Party as connecting with the electorate and he will do what no other Tory PM has done and taken seats they've never had before
Well, i trundled along and did my bit.. can't say I am happy about my vote.. but that's how it sometimes is with me.. The choices seemed poor.. My daughter voted for the first time ever, she's 18.. so it was kinda a cool moment even if the people running were all lacklustre
@ArtieKat makes sense.. I struggle with it.. it feels like they are all useless tossers and I can't say I support any of them.. so it was tough voting.. and I really didn't want to .. but I am obedient like that
@SW-User an excellent night democracy has been restored. Now we just need to stop another Indyref here in Scotland. SNP got 45 percent of the vote but 55 percent voted against Indyref 2
Here in Australia it is being reported that polling booths are experiencing long queues and "unprecedented voter turnout" despite the inclement weather at many constituencies. Our pundits are suggesting that the increase in voter turnout will benefit Labour. Time will tell.
@SW-User tottally agree was about brexit, theresa was weak spineless and an embarressment
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Just waking up to the news. Obviously I'm very disappointed with the result. Labour will never take government again due to several factors but a lot to do with losing Scotland to the snp. Maybe once brexit is done something will be better. But I fear the country now will be destined for years as essentially a one party state which I don't think in the long run is good. Labour will take decades to rebuild and the in fighting will start soon I'm sure sadly.
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Tusk and Juncker must be crying and Gina Miller is on the phone to her solicitor as I type this
@SW-User she has crashed on every debate, she her on peston last night lets hope boris gets msjority and can lock her in tower of london we could have vote on that , democracy lol ,
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@Nyloncapes she started the campaign by saying she wanted to be the next PM and maybe doesn't realise she's in a fight to save her seat
This election was all about Brexit not domestic policy.Labour got over 40% of the vote in Wales to the Tory 36%.The Lib Dem’s got wiped out and Plaid retained their seats.Apart from Bridgend going Tory I do not think there were any shocks.Part of Britain retained its sanity. The big task for Labour is to get Scotland back for without them I can see perpetual Tory government and I do not want live in a country with a government that only looks after the rich. I am now behind the growing a Welsh independence movement which will surely grow stronger.
@SW-User When the Blythe Valley result, my mother's reaction was 'Goodness: holy F**k' lol. I'll remember it in the same way - perhaps how older Labour voters remember the Tories losing (especially Michael Portillo) in 1997.
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@ChampagneAngel many top Tories lost their seats in '97 in the labour landslide
Ok guys what's your predictions for your own constituency and the final result?
I think our seat of Lancaster and Fleetwood will turn from Labour to the Conservatives. A 4% swing will win it for the Tories
And I think a Conservative majority of 22 overall giving Boris the mandate to "get Brexit done"
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@SW-User Gillingham & Rainham Conservative hold. I could have predicted that on day one of the campaign. Overall. I think majority will be slightly lower than predicted somewhere in the 50s.
@SW-User Well... The annalysis have to be made in the following the weeks, and the results still have to come in. But if labour fails, if that happens. And it's because of Brexit (if that is the case)... then when the next election comes over, it can catch the votes back if it has a solid program. Since I hope Brexit is dealt with by then.
@SW-User It's hard to say. Yes it will be a problem but if Boris keeps denying it then it also kinda plays into her hands. It might get more people on board. I've been thinking if it keeps up eventually we just have to hold one and if the UK government does what Spain did then that will only help us.
Also even if we hold the balance of power and we have an arrangement with Corbyn it could be bad for us. Having a referendum when Corbyn is in government means we can't go on about Tory governments and left wingers might be more likely to say no.
So really there's problems and advantages either way. Just need as many seats as we can get so it's harder to deny.
@Nyloncapes Well it's that attitude that makes people more likely to want out.
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Well our constituency is predicted to announce at 6am do I'll go to bed set the alarm and get up then. Nothing I can do about any of it now. Result will be result.
@ArtieKat Yes, of course. I knew I had seen his face before. Oh, speaking of the war criminals staff, have you seen Alistair Campbell getting owned by Piers Morgan this morning?
@ChampagneAngel 9 years of austerity the appalling record of May a leader with a track record of being incapable of not lying including to the Queen in his first few weeks in power and they win a landslide.... 🤔 Other than buggering the queen at the state opening I have to say they look currently untouchable like the Thatcher years as she decimated many industries putting thousands & thousands out of work and working class tory voters continued to support her for a few tax breaks and cheap shares in businesses they effectively already owned.
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Cons take Blyrh Valley
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It's looking like Boris has pulled off a masterstroke with this election
Let's hope the exit poll results are true. No commies in number 10! The 5 Eyes Intelligence Alliance still in tact. The economy still in tact. Apparently the pound has soared. I'm bathing in leftie tears right now 🛀
@SW-User Hard to say with polls giving some pretty varied results. What seems a guarantee is the SNP will get at least 40 seats but where in the 40s doesn't seem clear.
Labour might lose a couple but since at one point they were tipped to be pretty much wiped out that's good for them.
Seat I'm most interested in is East Dunbartonshire where hopefully Swinson will lose her seat. Also Ochill and South Pershire, and Hamilton East and Lanark where the SNP and Tories are neck and neck.
@SW-User I know Swinson is a disaster but the work Amy Callaghan put in to beat a party leader with all the tv coverage was fantastic. Deserves so much credit.
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I thought by 0013 more than 3 seats would have declared
@SW-User I'm ashamed of my Geordie cousins at that!! Then again, didn't the toon vote to remain? Apologies from the other side of the Tyne for returning a commie!
Ooooh, Sunderland now...
Labour only just. That was close! Damn it, the Brexit Party have split the leave vote!
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Looks like there may have been a high turnout
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If the poll is correct and accurate then Labour are facing wipeout
Yes lets hope all the polls are right and labour comes to their senses and boot corbyn and his cohorts out of the labour party we can only hope and get someone who can bring labour back to popularity .
