@4meAndyou Normally, a President declaring something actually means something, but that's not really the case with Trump at this point for a number of reasons.

I don't know if Newsom will weigh in at all, but if he does, I'm sure it won't be to veto a municipal resolution.

Moreover, while I don't think it helps Democrats much nationally, my guess is even a local debarrment (if that's even possible) doesn't hurt them nationally much, especially if Trump counterpunches and the right reacts angrily and they can paint it as Trump picking on Democrats, liberals, gays, etc.

I could be wrong, but I think the Democrats want to sit back and jab at Trump and let him seem to act crazy and swing wildly without even trying to land a knockout blow. The tricky part is to avoid the blows and keep scoring points.

It's the same kind of thing with impeachment, the Squad, and I think it's a pretty good move for Dems to play to try to win.

Nationally, I think the Democrats go "AOC"/socialist or worse, because I think that would I play into Trump's hand. In places like SF, it might be a different story, but the same thing holds true for Republicans, i.e., you need to focus on your voters and not ones in other places.

No matter what Fox says, I don't think the "angry hard left" is nearly as powerful as the angry hard right, within their own parties. I think Democratic leadership, even the left most candidates realize this, and they'll try and play to the "sane middle", which is the place where Trump seems likely to have a hard time playing.

They need to stay in the ring, of course, but they need to stand up to Trump without trying to fight the way he does. They suck at it, for one thing, and for another, they need to be able to sell "clean hands" more to their base than Trump does or really can.

@MistyCee I am still waiting for someone in the "sane middle"...😂

@4meAndyou Moi aussi, and I'm hoping that there are more people looking for that then there are people looking to push single issues at the expense of the big picture.

Glad to know I did. Have a good one!@Stereoguy

@SW-User Well, we certainly agree that they are a$$holes, and their thinking appears to be warped. But we knew that already.

@akindheart You know it. When I heard this, I was astonished. They have the giant elephant of homelessness and sanitation in the room, with which they are incompetent to deal, and because they can NOT fix that huge problem, they are flailing around and doing stupid inflammatory things like THIS with their time.

@Budwick You're right. Mistycee cleared that up for me. The SF board of supervisors is just grandstanding and making noise.

He says it's a possibility that SF might try to debar or ban NRA members...and that is when the poo will hit the fan.

Then the smell from all the poo in SF will certainly stink up the Democrat Socialist Party's chances in 2020.

If they had a brain between them they would keep quiet till 2020 is over...but no hope of any brains in the elected officials of SF.

@curiosi I know. Good peaceful citizens of both the Republican and the Democrat Socialist party, who hold down jobs, attend PTA meetings, care about their kids and support the economy, and some of whom even attend church or mosque or synagogue, are now "domestic terrorists".

But it is perfectly fine to buy illegal heroin in the streets of San Francisco, and sell it, and shoot up in public, and pee and poo right in front of passersby.

@DudeistPriest Yes, I did see that. I live 3 blocks from the water on the east coast, and we sometimes see sea lions here.

@4meAndyou That's a beautiful thing to see. Why did I doubt they were anywhere else? Golden Gate bridge on a sunny afternoon.

@DudeistPriest We drove across it, just once, to say we did.

@MarmeeMarch While there is nothing wrong with being gay, (because it's a natural condition), I don't think I would go as far as to publicly fund sex change operations.

@4meAndyou thx good info.

@4meAndyou Right, I'm not sure either. I think they'll find out soon enough.

@HannahSky Yeah, Mistycee has the best answer though. The board of supervisors in SF don't have the legal right to do anything, and they are just grandstanding and making noise.

@xixgun I posted some research down at the bottom here. An essential portion of the Patriot Act upon which domestic terrorist designations are based is:

"The USA Patriot Act from 2001 defines domestic terrorism as a dangerous act occurring within U.S. territory that violates criminal laws in ways that are "intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping."

And it seems to me that the city board of supervisors in San Francisco is doing this: [quote]"intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion[/quote]

@4meAndyou bingo

@SW-User I had to dive deep into my research today, and according to the FBI, if a member or members of a group get violent and cause mass harm in order the change or coerce public opinion, their group status changes to domestic terrorist.

@4meAndyou That is quite a mind scramble

@MarmeeMarch Well, I don't think anyone still alive in SF was actually born there...but I could be wrong...😂

@4meAndyou I'm sure there's plenty of old money floating around in the better places in the better areas

@MarmeeMarch Perhaps...but I think "Old Money" in San Francisco isn't that old.