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Have you heard? San Francisco board of supervisors just passed a resolution declaring the NRA a domestic terrorist group.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/04/san-francisco-supervisors-nra-domestic-terrorist-organization/2210973001/

I don't like guns...I had a very scary experience with one...but I didn't know that city governments were allowed to make decisions like that. Are they?

I DO like the law...and I would like to see that people don't let their tiny powers go to their heads.

Who can legally determine that a group is a domestic terrorist organization? Anyone know? I thought it was the federal government in conjunction with the FBI, (many of whom will be surprised to discover they are now "domestic terrorists").
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MistyCee Best Comment
They can do whatever they want, but the terrorist label is political grandstanding.

I'd be pissed if I paid taxes there, even if I agreed 100% with them, tbh.

This differs from pardoning a Turkey mostly because it's controversial. Whether you agree with it or not, it's dumb and a waste of money.

Now, if they actually debar the NRA, I could see more of an issue, and I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.

I doubt the NRA does that much business with SF, but I also suspect it's not just New York, Walmart and SF that are going to send messages.

If the NRA actually cares about promoting responsible gun ownership, they ought to be focusing on that now, because they're taking plenty of heat for being a maunufacurers lobby, Conservative political stuff beyond guns, internal corruption, and money laundering.

Just my two cents, but I'd be pulling out gun education classes, youth stuff, and tone down the babes and bullets stuff, along with defending litigation.
4meAndyou · F
@MistyCee I THOUGHT it seemed a little bit odd that a board of city supervisors would try to declare a domestic terrorist group, when President Trump has not been allowed to declare Anti-Fa a domestic terrorist group. They are considered a sub-set of the anarchist group, and that group is protected.

Apparently their tiny little brains on the board of city supervisors have massively inflated ideas of their actual power, and they have certainly overestimated their own abilities if the homeless problem there is any indication. I don't know why the GOVERNOR does not step in.

If they debar the NRA that will create national problems for their entire party. Of course, they are too stupid to realize that it will affect the 2020 election.

I think the NRA right now has it's own head up it's own a-hole, and their own people are jumping ship, but that doesn't make them domestic terrorists as a group according to the Patriot Act.
@4meAndyou Normally, a President declaring something actually means something, but that's not really the case with Trump at this point for a number of reasons.

I don't know if Newsom will weigh in at all, but if he does, I'm sure it won't be to veto a municipal resolution.

Moreover, while I don't think it helps Democrats much nationally, my guess is even a local debarrment (if that's even possible) doesn't hurt them nationally much, especially if Trump counterpunches and the right reacts angrily and they can paint it as Trump picking on Democrats, liberals, gays, etc.

I could be wrong, but I think the Democrats want to sit back and jab at Trump and let him seem to act crazy and swing wildly without even trying to land a knockout blow. The tricky part is to avoid the blows and keep scoring points.

It's the same kind of thing with impeachment, the Squad, and I think it's a pretty good move for Dems to play to try to win.

Nationally, I think the Democrats go "AOC"/socialist or worse, because I think that would I play into Trump's hand. In places like SF, it might be a different story, but the same thing holds true for Republicans, i.e., you need to focus on your voters and not ones in other places.

No matter what Fox says, I don't think the "angry hard left" is nearly as powerful as the angry hard right, within their own parties. I think Democratic leadership, even the left most candidates realize this, and they'll try and play to the "sane middle", which is the place where Trump seems likely to have a hard time playing.

They need to stay in the ring, of course, but they need to stand up to Trump without trying to fight the way he does. They suck at it, for one thing, and for another, they need to be able to sell "clean hands" more to their base than Trump does or really can.
4meAndyou · F
@MistyCee I am still waiting for someone in the "sane middle"...😂
@4meAndyou Moi aussi, and I'm hoping that there are more people looking for that then there are people looking to push single issues at the expense of the big picture.