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CopperCicada · M
We don't mentor young men who are in trouble. We walk away from them. That stems from a materialistic view that there's good people and bad people, and there's no way to change that. And only bad people associate with bad people. Everyone of these young men who engaged in mass shootings gave many signs of being in trouble. In many cases people even reached out to law enforcement. But in all cases people walked away from and not towards them.
Carazaa · F
@CopperCicada Mothers forgot about the consequences for their boys when they divorced.
CopperCicada · M
@Carazaa I don't think single mothers have anything to do with it.
Carazaa · F
@CopperCicada I am against divorce. It is not good for kids. I have been a single Mom.
CopperCicada · M
@Carazaa My parents did not divorce. And because of it I was exposed to domestic violence and a constant stream of hateful rhetoric from racism to woman hating to violent fantasies.
That's basically how you increase the chance your kid will be violent. By not divorcing such a man.
That's basically how you increase the chance your kid will be violent. By not divorcing such a man.
Carazaa · F
@CopperCicada So sorry! I am for separation though and insisting on counseling, not divorcing.
CopperCicada · M
@Carazaa The reality is that most don't change. A man who beats his wife across all four walls may stop through counseling, but has deeper problems that a woman should probably shelter her kids from.
A young man shoots up a place in part by being desensitized to violence or subjected to it. No better way than watching mom catch a beating and smile, or watching a violent father engaged in violence and smile and laugh as if it is a game.
A young man shoots up a place in part by being desensitized to violence or subjected to it. No better way than watching mom catch a beating and smile, or watching a violent father engaged in violence and smile and laugh as if it is a game.
Carazaa · F
@CopperCicada You are so right that the children will be traumatized if they see abuse or live in hatred and fear and they need to be protected. However Men and women change all the time if they don't get what they want. A man won't beat his boss because he will lose his job. A woman has to be insisting on change and leave if he doesn't, then he WILL change. I see it all the time.
CopperCicada · M
@Carazaa People don't change if they feel it is their born right to abuse others. My aunt was physically and emotionally abused from her wedding night until the death of her husband. The messages he got from his peers, the family, and faith community was that she was at fault and should work on making him happy. Why would such a person change? She insisted on change.
Carazaa · F
@CopperCicada What I was saying is I see marriages change all the time because the woman leaves and insisting on not talking to him for 6 months until he has gone to AA and NA, and counseling and anger groups. I encourage women to leave immediately and not go back until they have talked to the therapists after a year. Men realize then how wrong they have been. They tell me all the time.
CopperCicada · M
@Carazaa That's great. That didn't happen in the time and place I came up.



