I've been looking at equity data all day on the members in my union to determine if there's a pay gap

@Selah I knew you were quality.

😂@Selah

@Selah You’re awesome. 🤣

@Ryannnnnn It's... complicated. All of my members are salaried so there's no issue of hours and if you compare people in the same positions same ranks you still see a pay gap that favours men over women.

If you include years of service the population becomes too small.

Like If you look at "top ranked women vs men who have been here over 20 years" this is where pay gaps are the strongest but there's only like eight people.

The fact men put in more hours and tend to be in higher jobs because of social expectations on child rearing is really relevant and probably does things like slow promotion rates. Idon't have rate of promotion in my data.

@MarineBob You are a totally believable person, too.

@daisymay and there is only two genders

@MarineBob Aww, you don't need to get upset for being called a liar, you just need to stop lying.

@Starcrossed Well the outcome of this is we get the employer to give said women some money to correct the imbalance. Proving it to a legal standard is gonna require a real statistician and not my amateur ass though lol

@CountScrofula sounds like the union messed up by not taking care of it's women

@Jackaloftheazuresand It depends on how you slice the information (years of service, type of work done, rank) but I'd be confident in saying there's around a 10k gap that grows or shrinks depending on different views of the information.

@Quoththeraven Pay gaps are unintentional - employers who are found to have them tend to deny them and are embarrassed because it's bad PR. To admit there is a pay gap and then weaponize it is just contrary to how... anyone works.

Also it'd be a PR nightmare because trust me - it would become knowledge pretty soon. Imagine it getting out in the newspapers that employers were refusing to hire men because they could pay women less. It'd be international news - particularly because I work for a public university.

Could you imagine Fox News losing their fucking minds over a university refusing to hire men because they could pay women less?

Many employers acknowledge gender pay gaps exist and real. But they still hire men because to refuse to do so would be fucking insane.

Girl power 💪 smash the pachiarchy@CountScrofula

@Quoththeraven Now we're talking :D

@LvChris Yeah they seem to think "It's complicated" means "It doesn't exist"