I notice the technocracy banning apparently right leaning individuals for having the wrong opinion, and then...

@sunsporter1649 Discrimination [b]does not[/b] equal protection under the 1st Amendment.

You put out a shingle, you agree to not discriminate. Thems is the laws!

@Pherick So Freedom of Religion does not exist?

@sunsporter1649 Your right to worship? Of course, it exists, its purely secular as far as government and society go. The minute you walk into society, open a store, you are open for business for everyone, not just folks who follow the same religion as you.

Thats how it works. Don't want to serve gay folk because your religion says not to? Don't open a business. It's that simple.

@Pherick You mean there is only one flower shop in the whole country?

@sunsporter1649 Careful, facts don't matter this person. You disagree with him, that makes you a -insert label douche- and is enough evidence for him to dismiss you.

@Pherick "The minute you walk into society, you are open to all" except when that person holds a different view to you. Okie dokie.

@sunsporter1649 Plenty of decent people have no problem helping a happy couple get flowers on their special day, gay, straight or in between.

Most people don't let their religion get in the way of other people's lives.

@cunningcrocodile What the fuck are you talking about?

If you open a store in this country, you ARE open to all. Feel free to discriminate against someone for their religion, their gender, their race and see what happens.

P.S. You become a bigot when you do that!

@cunningcrocodile Buy your flowers at a different shop----unless you have a more sinister motive

@Pherick Could you link me to an article on this flower shop affair, please?

@cunningcrocodile Technically its @sunsporter1649's affair, but just to be nice..

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/us/florist-discrimination-gay-couple-washington-court.html

@cunningcrocodile So true, but sticking the needle in is so much fun

@Pherick If what the court claims was the truth, then of course I'm opposed to that. They should be able to buy flowers. However, by the same laws, conservatives shouldn't be denied access to internet service. You can't hide in "private company can deny service to whichever conservative they want" and then demand "private companies have to serve flowers to gays". Either you can't discriminate against anyone, or you can discriminate against everyone.

@cunningcrocodile Not true. The gay couple was denied because of their relationship status by the owners who stated their religion would not let them serve them.

Twitter is saying it has ToS and alt-right people are breaking by posting bigoted hateful language. There is no claim of religious bias in this denial of service.

Being a nazi fuckhead is not a protected class.

@cunningcrocodile My point exactly

@Pherick When FB decides that almost everyone slightly to the right of you, or even just anyone with an opposing opinion to you, whatever it is is a nazi extremist, or some sort of extremist, a convenient way to deny services to anyone they disagree with - it does become discrimination.

@cunningcrocodile I know TONS of pretty shitty nazi-esque type folks on FB, FB isn't blocking or cutting them off. It cuts off the worst offenders, but in no way gets anywhere close to "almost everyone"

That is serious ridiculous.

@Pherick You know tons of them still on fb, tons of nazis eh? Strange how that hasn't crashed their business, as per your other comment.

@cunningcrocodile LOL I wish I could say this has been fun, but it hasn't, I fucking hate nazi apologists. BYE.

@Pherick Of course, calling President Trump a nazi in the washington post is Protected Speech, is it not?

@sunsporter1649 I mean, if they wanted to, sure. But then people would be free to challenge that with facts. Oh wait, these big media corporations are pushing to silence these challenges, "alternative news". Convenient.

@sunsporter1649 I'm glad you made that point. But this guy isn't interested in facts or fairness. It's "one rule for me, another for thee". My stance is you either pick "businesses can refuse services to anyone" or "businesses can't deny services to anyone". You can't selectively apply the law based on your personal politics. THAT is discrimination. @Pherick

@cunningcrocodile Amazing how blind a lot of them are to the unintended consequences of their actions

@sunsporter1649 Yeah, though they are starting to come under fire from their own censorship conditions. Pherick is the extremist bigot out of us three. His view of "if you disagree with me, just a little bit then you you must be on the extreme end of the side I despise" is actual extremist talk. Especially viewing my stance of "i dislike both the fringes of both sides aswell as censorship" so the moderate, middle ground - as "you must be a nazi!" For stating that I DISLIKE BOTH EXTREMES and dislike censorship. It's such cultish, deluded, ignorant thinking. And I'll ironically continue to liken him the nazis, who as I pointed out, censored information just how he wants to.

@cunningcrocodile You should have seen the clowns go nuts when Geno's in Philadelphia put up this sign. Geno's had my business from then on. Great cheesesteaks.