Am I supposed to be apologetic for being a straight white male?
Awful tired of this bs narrative
41-45, M
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Slappppaho · 41-45, M
I am not privileged, that is exactly the narrative that I am combating here. You people are INSANE@Pikachu
Slappppaho · 41-45, M
what are you talking about? Here in America, everyone has the same privileges, guaranteed under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I agree, sometimes they are taken for granted. Those have nothing to do with race or sexuality. That is what I have been driving at @Pikachu
@Slappppaho
I'm talking about privilege. Were you ever afraid of how your friends and family would react if you told them you like girls?
I'm gonna go ahead and say no, probably not. A lgtb person cannot necessarily say the same thing. Especially if they live in certain places in america.
This is an example of privilege. This is something that you as a straight male take utterly for granted and yet it is a HUGE deal to some people and a decision which can have drastic consequences.
As for rights under the law...well what's on the books and what happens in practice are not necessarily the same thing.
For instance, do you worry about losing your job if you have a child?
Women have to. Even though firing a woman for getting pregnant or having a child is illegal, it's still a thing women have to worry about.
All too often, women finish maternity leave and find that they're not being fired. Oh no. no that would be illegal. However their position IS being downsized or amalgamated with another department with the result that they no longer have a job.
Men almost never have to consider such things. They take it for granted that they can have a child and continue working.
This is an example of privilege.
what are you talking about?
I'm talking about privilege. Were you ever afraid of how your friends and family would react if you told them you like girls?
I'm gonna go ahead and say no, probably not. A lgtb person cannot necessarily say the same thing. Especially if they live in certain places in america.
This is an example of privilege. This is something that you as a straight male take utterly for granted and yet it is a HUGE deal to some people and a decision which can have drastic consequences.
As for rights under the law...well what's on the books and what happens in practice are not necessarily the same thing.
For instance, do you worry about losing your job if you have a child?
Women have to. Even though firing a woman for getting pregnant or having a child is illegal, it's still a thing women have to worry about.
All too often, women finish maternity leave and find that they're not being fired. Oh no. no that would be illegal. However their position IS being downsized or amalgamated with another department with the result that they no longer have a job.
Men almost never have to consider such things. They take it for granted that they can have a child and continue working.
This is an example of privilege.
Slappppaho · 41-45, M
You are talking about choices. If I choose to be an artist, I may have to suffer the consequences of being poor and unemployed for long periods of time. All choices have consequences or ramifications. You wanna be a gay, you will be ostracized at times. That is part of your decision that perhaps you should consider before you make that choice. You could also make the choice to be quiet about it, and not a full blown activist about your sexuality. That is yet another choice that will draw lots of unnecessary attention to you about something that’s pretty personal. Being black is not a choice, I understand that. That doesn’t mean you have less opportunity than anyone else tho. Not here. Everything comes down to choices and your ability to overcome things mentally and continue forward. It’s not easy for anyone, and I reject that I have started on third base because I have a white cock
@Slappppaho
I'm going to assume you were saying that coming out as gay is a choice and not that you think that being gay is a choice.
Yes, all choices have consequences.
The point is that as a straight white male, the consequences of your decisions are not the same nor as severe as the ones a woman or a gay person or a black person might face.
That is privilege.
You can make the decision to have a child and the consequences for you are minimal and frankly trivial compared to the consequences a woman might face. You don't have to worry about being fired, you don't have to choose whether you will stay at home and put your career on hold and you won't be negatively judged by society if you decide to put your career first.
That is privilege.
You might make the decision to tell your family and friends to whom you are attracted but since you are a straight male, the consequences for that decision are nothing while the gay person might face serious consequences like being kicked out of the house, losing touch with family or being forced into a pray the gay away program.
That is privilege.
You might make the decision to talk back to a police officer. As a white male, the consequences of that decision are statistically far less likely to result in serious consequences like getting shot that a black man will face.
That is privilege.
You reject the idea that you have privilege because you don't recognize it because you take it for granted.
Like i said before: you don't have to be apologetic for being privileged, you just have to be mindful of it.
I'm going to assume you were saying that coming out as gay is a choice and not that you think that being gay is a choice.
Yes, all choices have consequences.
The point is that as a straight white male, the consequences of your decisions are not the same nor as severe as the ones a woman or a gay person or a black person might face.
That is privilege.
You can make the decision to have a child and the consequences for you are minimal and frankly trivial compared to the consequences a woman might face. You don't have to worry about being fired, you don't have to choose whether you will stay at home and put your career on hold and you won't be negatively judged by society if you decide to put your career first.
That is privilege.
You might make the decision to tell your family and friends to whom you are attracted but since you are a straight male, the consequences for that decision are nothing while the gay person might face serious consequences like being kicked out of the house, losing touch with family or being forced into a pray the gay away program.
That is privilege.
You might make the decision to talk back to a police officer. As a white male, the consequences of that decision are statistically far less likely to result in serious consequences like getting shot that a black man will face.
That is privilege.
You reject the idea that you have privilege because you don't recognize it because you take it for granted.
Like i said before: you don't have to be apologetic for being privileged, you just have to be mindful of it.
Slappppaho · 41-45, M
I don’t have to do shit for anyone, and neither do you. You have the freedom to choose whatever dumb decisions you want. Being an idiot is a privilege shared by all Americans, gay, straight, black, white, etc. Stop playing victim and you can literally do whatever you want, you are only holding yourself back. Making bad decisions usually yield temporary consequences, but being a pussy is a lifetime sentence buddy. Life is hard, but every one of us born into this great country has the privilege of being able to do what they want and achieve great things and build a great life for themselves. Knock it off with the identity politics, you are not doing anyone any favors@Pikachu
@Slappppaho
Can you explain how you think that response addresses the different consequences different people face for the same choices?
I gave you very clear examples of privilege.
Declaring that everyone has the privilege of being able to do what they want does not erase the fact that you as a straight white male have privilege that others do not share.
Are you genuinely naive to the concept that has been explained to you or do you simply not want to hear it?
Can you explain how you think that response addresses the different consequences different people face for the same choices?
I gave you very clear examples of privilege.
Declaring that everyone has the privilege of being able to do what they want does not erase the fact that you as a straight white male have privilege that others do not share.
Are you genuinely naive to the concept that has been explained to you or do you simply not want to hear it?