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Confederate States

Here is a history lesson/question.

Since, if you look up a list of the Confederate Sates of America, you will find 11 states listed - South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Florida, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina - why are there 13 stars in the
Confederate flag?

Quakertrucker
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
Texas was a slave state. As a matter of fact there were slaves in Northern states too.
@Zonuss As much as the northern states said the Civil War was all about slavery....it was not. In fact slavery continued for just over 8 years (officially) in the union states until it was abolished by law.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 It was somewhat. But the economy was booming in the South and the Northern States wanted slavery gone in order to compete with the slave trade. There are various reasons why we had this war. Now today its a culture war going on and that is stupid, too. 🙂
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
@anythingoes477 The Civil War was entirely about slavery. Saying it wasn't is 20th century conservative revisionism. Just read The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States (https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states):

Georgia: "For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery."

Mississippi: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world."

South Carolina: "But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution."

Texas: "She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time."
@Zonuss In fact the economy was not booming in the south. All major export ports were located in the northern states. That is where the money is. Yes the south did all of the producing--with slaves--but they felt they were being screwed by the north. The south produced--the north bought it from the south for very little profit to the plantation owners and then exported for huge profits. The south resented that. The south began to raise hell in congress and the north pushed back and made it an issue of slavery----even though the north was neck deep in slaves too. When the north came thru the south they burned everything. If the south was going to complain it didn't make enough---the north wanted to make sure they had nothing to sell--and no way to make or grow more of it. When the south began to hurt financially after the war, the northerners began to send buyers south--Carpet Baggers--to buy up devalued properties. This way the north could control their own production--then sell it themselves out of the ports in the north. Like you said--a lot of reasons....but the south's envy of the way northerns made all the money and the south did all the work was the prime mover.
@DunningKruger Then why was slavery just as--if not more so---prevalent in the north? And why if the north hated slavery did it take YEARS for it end in the north after the Civil War? Depending on what area of the U.S. you live in--taught history changes. But the truth is----though a divorce (for instance) might be said to be for one reason to the public--we both know it can for a lot different reason behind the scenes. So it is with history. Good article. Read.

http://www.civildiscourse-historyblog.com/blog/2017/1/3/when-did-slavery-really-end-in-the-north
@DunningKruger You will note in your quotes--those are southern states with grievances with other southern states---not union/confederate grievances. Just saying.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@anythingoes477 Actually it was until after the Civil War. But even then there was an explosion afterwards especially around the time when we had the first car made here and the first skyscraper. There were some advancements made. But there is a lot they aren't telling you about what happened. But I am in its backyard. Im very much aware of what really went down.