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fddlpej · 61-69, M
You don't need a wall if you put the people in prison that employ them.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
That awkward moment when you promise to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it but if that doesn't work out then "Mexico" becomes code word for "rerouting funding from essential parts of the government" but if that doesn't work then it becomes code word for "shutting down the government indefinitely."
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BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@MistyCee Trump, truly, is not as anomalous as most people think. He isn't something new but something very old; he is essentially the culmination of everything wrong with every president and administration we've had since Ronald Reagan. Maybe even further back than that, since Kennedy, even. He's the establishment's ultimate fantasy, Corporate America's wet dream. People act as if Trump and his politics are some kind of new evil that we've never encountered before but truly, he's just the strongest incarnation of the same evil that's plagued us for the last half a century.
@BlueMetalChick I hear what you're saying, but he's actually a pretty poor tool for corporate America when you think about how manipulable and self centered he is.
I'm not saying big business, like Putin and MBS, aren't trying to use him, but his narcissism seems to overrule even his own greed.
I'm not saying big business, like Putin and MBS, aren't trying to use him, but his narcissism seems to overrule even his own greed.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@MistyCee If Putin has tried to use Trump, he's done a horrible job. We're in two proxy wars with Russia right now, escalating NATO buildup on their borders and bombing all their top allies in the Middle East. However, I do think Russian criminal organizations have laundered money for him and so he owes something to them. I really wouldn't be surprised.
He seems to be most beholden to the military industrial complex and fossil fuel corporations thus far. He's done wonders to make "defense" contractors like Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Honeywell, and Raytheon even richer than they already were. Murderous bastards.
He seems to be most beholden to the military industrial complex and fossil fuel corporations thus far. He's done wonders to make "defense" contractors like Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Honeywell, and Raytheon even richer than they already were. Murderous bastards.
Viper · M
1) They don't!
Though important to note that the US President is claiming the new NAFTA (called USMCA) will get Mexico to pay for it... but everyone else seems very skeptical about that as almost all other reports suggest USMCA is just NAFTA 2.0 with slightly higher standards, new name and structure and really not that much different at all.
2) What Wall? Latest rumor is a fence...
And that's only if they can agree to agree and the President that's all about media coverage ignores the current media coverage where the right wing media is saying no Republicans should sign this and the left wing media is noticing Trump is actually getting less than if he agreed in the first place. I'm still not sure this is gonna happen... and if it does I'm expecting a curve ball to be thrown into it later.
Though important to note that the US President is claiming the new NAFTA (called USMCA) will get Mexico to pay for it... but everyone else seems very skeptical about that as almost all other reports suggest USMCA is just NAFTA 2.0 with slightly higher standards, new name and structure and really not that much different at all.
2) What Wall? Latest rumor is a fence...
And that's only if they can agree to agree and the President that's all about media coverage ignores the current media coverage where the right wing media is saying no Republicans should sign this and the left wing media is noticing Trump is actually getting less than if he agreed in the first place. I'm still not sure this is gonna happen... and if it does I'm expecting a curve ball to be thrown into it later.
Northwest · M
This was in a movie: Sicario: Day of the Soldado
hertoy · 70-79, M
If the wall saves $$$ in lost revenue, jobs, free meds, free housing, less crime...bazzinga!
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@hertoy Illegal immigration is a net gain to the economy too 🤷♂️
And it has nothing to do with sovereignty. We’ve been a sovereign nation this whole time, whether illegal immigration is up, or at a low point like it is now.
And it has nothing to do with sovereignty. We’ve been a sovereign nation this whole time, whether illegal immigration is up, or at a low point like it is now.
hertoy · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul I agree to disagree...
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@hertoy You can disagree that two and two is four too, but it’s a silly posture to get into.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
when congress stops giving the aid packages
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@MarineBob Well, if you ask me, step one to a secure border is to abolish ICE and reroute the funding to legitimate agencies like Customs, US Border Patrol, and Immigration Police. All three of them do a better job of keeping the border safe than ICE has ever done, and they cost much less money.
Step two is to stop detaining every person who illegally enters the country and detaining them with the intent of trying them in a criminal court and incarcerating them in American jails. That's the stupidest most ass backwards least effective immigration policy I've ever seen.
Step two is to stop detaining every person who illegally enters the country and detaining them with the intent of trying them in a criminal court and incarcerating them in American jails. That's the stupidest most ass backwards least effective immigration policy I've ever seen.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@srxwat4 I like the sarcasm. As a war refugee myself I can contest to that. Americans hate how many of us keep trying to leave our homelands and emigrate here, yet America is bombing all of the countries where the refugees are coming from. Maybe if y'all want less of us, stop giving us a reason to leave our homes. I would have stayed in my country were it not for the US-Saudi Coalition committing a genocide in my birthplace.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@MarineBob Lmao most of our aid to Mexico is for their military and police so they can fight the cartels on our behalf. We need it more than they do.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
they already are through trade tariffs on Mexican exports to US