What would be a reasonable compromise on this wall issue ?

i want productive suggestions without calling anyone a treasontrump or libtard. and i dont want any arguments why it should be build or why not...

make a suggestion how to solve this dilemma in a way that makes the other side look good. you dont want to "win" you want a compromise and that will hurt you.

Disclaimer: the joke with build only half a wall i claim for myself.

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4meAndyou · F

The best compromise would be for both parties in Congress and the President to agree in advance to form a committee comprised of the best experts in this area, and have them do a study on the most efficient, least expensive solutions to this crisis, including pointing out roadblocks in the immigration laws that make the problem worse. They would also have to agree, in advance to abide by the recommendations of the committee, which would be apolitical, and fund and implement them.

I'd like to see the committee comprised of some acknowledged genius types, mixed with border patrol agents, efficiency experts, experts from the DEA and the DHS, tech wizards, and all with one goal and no politics...to provide us with a workable plan for border security.

Unfortunately, it is too late for that now. We have two more caravans on the way, and a third is forming. This will actually create a crisis in Mexico, and we will see more huge family groups tunneling under existing walls, and we have absolutely no housing and no beds for them.

Even if President Trump got approval for his barrier next week, it could not be erected in time.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

Ahhh. Yes. The marauding caravans armed with pitchforks and rifles that are coming for your daughters and your jobs.

Please. No one in this debate gives a single rats ass about those people.

None of this is about so-called border security.

It’s about as honest as American football.

The only thing that matters is who’s team wins.

That’s it.

End of story.

@4meAndyou

4meAndyou · F

@JoeyFoxx I am so delighted to hear the opinion of one who is so obviously neutral in this matter. 😂 You are not even an American.

The new President of Mexico has opened his southern border to Guatemala. His border guards are handing out water bottles. This policy will increase the number of migrants.

I am a former worker at a Homeless shelter, and your allegation that no one gives a rats ass is particularly insulting to me, because that is one of my enormous concerns. The migrants are essentially a mob of homeless...with children.

Perhaps you need to check your humanity levels.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@4meAndyou As a matter of fact, I was born in the US, possess a US Passport and have been a legal US citizen for the entirety of my existence on the planet.

While the Mexican policy may not be the most effective, there's some evidence of giving a shit there. Border patrols in the US have been known to slash water bottles meant for people wandering in the desert.

If you wish to take my comments personally, go for it. That wasn't my intent, but clearly you have a thin skin and there ain't anything I can do about this.

Fact: people say a lot of nice things about worry about the plight of the migrant caravans, but for an overwhelming majority, they aren't willing to lift a finger to do anything about it, so the concern is disingenuous.

This issue is about politics: nothing more, nothing less.

4meAndyou · F

@JoeyFoxx "The majority" you disparage so smoothly can't even afford to take a vacation, much less go down to the border and do something. I must say you have an insulting manner.

damselfly · 100+, F

@4meAndyou to be fair, you are taking broad statements very very personally, and taking an attempt to find a way of de-escalating a national crisis amiss, and lashing out personally.

What a situation when if someone isn't horribly polarised, politically, it can be presumed they aren't even American. Which I guess is sorta funny...

4meAndyou · F

@damselfly You did not read his reference to "American football", to which he referred in a disparaging manner. And why are you chiming in at all?

damselfly · 100+, F

Why the hell shouldn't I chime in? You think this government shutdown because of Trump's wall isn't of worldwide interest? Who made you the arbiter of who gets to chime in on an open story on a website open to all?

What does Joeys opinion on American football have any bearing on whether a wall is built? You really do believe that nobody should express views alternative to yours? Seriously? With yourself as the dictatorial thought police?

4meAndyou · F

@damselfly You and he must be friends. "Hell"? It is people like you, who use inflammatory language, who are the hell in the equation.