IF A Fetus Is Not Human Life...

...but just a meaningless bit of tissue, why should abortion not be allowed for any woman anytime anywhere for any reason? Abortion clinics should be as easy to find as dental clinics. In fact why should a woman even have to GIVE a reason? If abortion is about aborting something that isn't human only a bunch of cells that happen to be inside a woman's body then it has no more moral significance than clipping your toe nails or shaving?

But if it is a human life, please explain why should it ever be legal except for danger to the life of the mother ONLY?

The whole pro-abortion argument is illogical and abortionists can mask their shame by saying they are "pro-choice" but should have the courage (and moral bankruptcy) admit they believe a "fetus" has no more claim to existence than a cyst that needs to be removed, though as a nurse I have yet to encounter a cyst that had a heart beat...

If you admit it is life but are for abortion on demand anyway because a woman has a RIGHT to do with what she has inside her body because she "owns" it even if it is human than ethically your argument is the same as slave owners before the US Civil War who said black slaves were THEIRS because having bought them they OWNED them and had the right to feed or starve or beat or kill them as they wished because they lacked the rights of other human beings because they were black...just like a "fetus" does not cause it cannot pronounce your name.

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SheikYerbouti · 51-55, M

Dead things don't grow. Has a human being given birth to anything other than another human? The slave analogy is correct.

Abrienda · 26-30, F

@SheikYerbouti Thank you! I was trying to work it out and finally did this morning.

Lets stop treating the "pro-choice" argument for what it is not...those who believe in abortion MUST state they believe it is not a human life which means a fetus and a boil are to them morally if not clinically the same or MUST be willing to admit they favor infanticide. BTW I have noticed the pro-abortion people are also usually against the death penalty for murderers...and often of women.

The whole "pro-choice" argument is illogical and duplicitous used by moral cowards.

SheikYerbouti · 51-55, M

@Abrienda Many also support euthanasia. I used to be somewhat pro-choice until I really thought about and considered what the implications of my belief were. Dogs make dogs, cats make cats, lilies make lilies. ...then humans must make humans. If they are going to argue for "choice" they should at least have the intellectual honesty and admit it's a human life. But, they dance around calling it "life".

Abrienda · 26-30, F

@SheikYerbouti Yes we live in Orwell's world.

TheSeptikSkeptik · 46-50, M

@Abrienda lol. What a bunch of idiots. If it is illogical, then explain how it is illogical. So far you've been incredibly illogical and if needed be, I will point out every fallacy and every logical contradiction you've made so far.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

That would be great please go ahead. I look forward to reading it. @TheSeptikSkeptik

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@SheikYerbouti

[quote]Has a human being given birth to anything other than another human[/quote]

Probably not. But as far as i'm concerned, the fact that a human fetus has human DNA is a red herring. It's still not a person and therefore hasn't even the [i]tenuous[/i] claim to a right over the woman's body which would be afforded by personhood.

Abrienda · 26-30, F

@TheSeptikSkeptik I presented that in my opening post but guess you were too high on opioids to notice. I have been waiting ...where is it?

So, having waited, I wondered if life in your septic tank is so boring you must climb out of it to toss a bit of what you live among around before going returning to your natural habitat? Try taking a bath, getting a job, getting a gf/bf and getting a life. Then you just might stop making such an ass out of yourself.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Looks like he is unable to answer my question so his opinion doesn’t count 😀 @Abrienda @TheSeptikSkeptik

Abrienda · 26-30, F

@jackjjackson Of course not. Once we refuse to allow their manipulation of language they are lost. I did give him a simple multiple-choice question on the topic...which he would/will probably fail but if not would have to change his position...and maybe get a less disgusting username.