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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
"The caravan is organized by a group called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, [b]ut the effort is supported by the coalition CARA Family Detention Pro Bono Project, which includes Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLIN), the American Immigration Council (AIC), the Refugee and Immigration Center for Education and Legal Services (RICELS) and the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) – thus the acronym CARA," WND reported. "At least three of the four groups are funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation."
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/illegal_caravans_encouraged_by_honduras_and_soros.html
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@SumKindaMunster
It's not extreme or radical(IMHO) to want border security and orderly immigration. Had Congress done anything to address this instead of kicking the can down the road, perhaps we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I agree with this, and while I don't think the problems with our political system are wholly the result of evil globalists, I do think a large part of our problems are coming to grips with the reality of a global economy and the increasing power of corporations as opposed to states.
I don't think either the left or the right has the answers to this, but I'm pretty sure that Trump's interests in this problem line up with yours or mine.
I'm not quite sure where you're going with the dog whistling thing, though.
It's not extreme or radical(IMHO) to want border security and orderly immigration. Had Congress done anything to address this instead of kicking the can down the road, perhaps we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I agree with this, and while I don't think the problems with our political system are wholly the result of evil globalists, I do think a large part of our problems are coming to grips with the reality of a global economy and the increasing power of corporations as opposed to states.
I don't think either the left or the right has the answers to this, but I'm pretty sure that Trump's interests in this problem line up with yours or mine.
I'm not quite sure where you're going with the dog whistling thing, though.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
while I don't think the problems with our political system are wholly the result of evil globalists,
That really was a partial list, add to it, greedy multinational corporations, NGOs and PACs to the list of entities that manipulate the American political system for their own selfish desires.
I'm not quite sure where you're going with the dog whistling thing, though.
I guess just to say that because of notions like this, it makes it that much more difficult to arrive at political compromise. If you believe the other side is evil, you aren't interested in working with them and coming to a mutually acceptable solution. Political "dog whistles" further make the conversation that much more difficult as you are guided by beliefs as opposed to evidence or reason. If you believe the other side is using secret messages like that, it's doubtful you would trust them and work with them to arrive at a solution that works for both sides.
@SumKindaMunster
On the the dog whistling thing, I don't think its that unusual a concept for people to send messages with the words they use. Trump didn't invent it, and if you look hard enough, you'll see the same sort of thing done on both sides. Let's talk about gun control. Does that mean gun grabbing?
I know, I write legal stuff for a living and I often do the same kind of thing, making a reference for the benefit of the Court which my opponent might not get, or just phrasing things a particular way because it will mean something different to an appellate Court.
There's nothing "evil" about it, and quite honestly, if I was writing speeches for him, I'd likely do the same thing, picking words that would say things for different constituents carefully.
Frankly, as far as Trump goes, I think the problem goes deeper than just dog whistles. How can you trust a guy with no respect for facts or truth?
He throws stuff out there he knows isnt true, contradicts himself, and doesnt seem to have any real grasp on things.
I'm far more worried about Trump's amorality than I am about his evilness or immorality.
On the the dog whistling thing, I don't think its that unusual a concept for people to send messages with the words they use. Trump didn't invent it, and if you look hard enough, you'll see the same sort of thing done on both sides. Let's talk about gun control. Does that mean gun grabbing?
I know, I write legal stuff for a living and I often do the same kind of thing, making a reference for the benefit of the Court which my opponent might not get, or just phrasing things a particular way because it will mean something different to an appellate Court.
There's nothing "evil" about it, and quite honestly, if I was writing speeches for him, I'd likely do the same thing, picking words that would say things for different constituents carefully.
Frankly, as far as Trump goes, I think the problem goes deeper than just dog whistles. How can you trust a guy with no respect for facts or truth?
He throws stuff out there he knows isnt true, contradicts himself, and doesnt seem to have any real grasp on things.
I'm far more worried about Trump's amorality than I am about his evilness or immorality.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
When you consider the fact that George Soros is currently funding extreme left groups in the UK to reverse Brexit, it is hard NOT to believe any of these conspiracies. To add to that he also has said that he I wants to destroy the United States, and that he hates the country and everyone in it, so it is not hard to connect the dots linking Soros to the Caravan, even though it does seem unlikely that Soros is funding it directly.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 a lot of people hate Corbyn for different reasons, however quite a few of the remain groups are pro-Corbyn such as the aforementioned Momentum. I have studied the history of the EU and I have to disagree, it is not politics of the Center, if it were then the EU wouldn't be turning itself into a Dictatorship centered around Brussels. Momentum is also a Socialist group, so it cannot be considered center-left, yes you can also get right wing Socialist groups, like the National Socialist Party of the 1930s, but like all Socialist groups it is Socialist in name only.
I never said the EU was extreme left however, and Menzies and Gary, like some members of the House of Parliament and House of Lords, have vested interest in the EU.
I never said the EU was extreme left however, and Menzies and Gary, like some members of the House of Parliament and House of Lords, have vested interest in the EU.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PikachuTrainer Pfff. Momentum is not centre left but the left who are pro-remain support it as a lesser-evil, as I said.
What have you done to study the EU? Do you mean books, uni course or some dodgey youtube vids?
Tel the Syriza government of Greece that the EU is socialist. You don't seem to understand what socialism is tbf. I need to go now but good luck.
What have you done to study the EU? Do you mean books, uni course or some dodgey youtube vids?
Tel the Syriza government of Greece that the EU is socialist. You don't seem to understand what socialism is tbf. I need to go now but good luck.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 I do not see how it is a lesser evil.
Books, online articles, youtube videos, sorry not rich enough for Uni.
I never said the EU were socialist, and I do understand what Socialism is.
Books, online articles, youtube videos, sorry not rich enough for Uni.
I never said the EU were socialist, and I do understand what Socialism is.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Pure antisemitism, even if people don't think of their anti-Soros stuff as antisemitic.
A shadowy "Globalist" financier/puppeteer who is sewing chaos and trying to bring in non-white immigrant groups with the goal of destroying the west and unseating the power of the white race.
Replace Globalist with Jew and it's a tale as old as time.
A shadowy "Globalist" financier/puppeteer who is sewing chaos and trying to bring in non-white immigrant groups with the goal of destroying the west and unseating the power of the white race.
Replace Globalist with Jew and it's a tale as old as time.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
You are right that it should be a fringe theory but unfortunately it's become semi mainstream. Trump doesn't believe it but he tweeted it for his base.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 So you are confirming that you know what Trump actually believes? Am I getting that correctly?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SumKindaMunster 😹👍
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 Ah yes, and now we devolve into nonsense replies and emojis.
As usual, when challenged on your shit, your turn tail and run.
See ya next time.
Toodles!
As usual, when challenged on your shit, your turn tail and run.
See ya next time.
Toodles!
Are you saying Trump is a fringe lunatic? Doesn't 35% of the American voters believe every word he tweets?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@BetweenKittensandRiots Like you know anything about what is "normal" Aren't you a pansexual, tranny virgin?
BetweenKittensandRiots · 36-40, MVIP
@SumKindaMunster I'm not a pansexual. I'm REPULSED by the male body. I'm only attracted to womyn.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Trump Supporters ARE fringe lunatics. Some of them also happen to be Republicans. Support for a point of view and political donations are rife on all sides. But you wont find many left wing Militias playing war games in their bunkers in the hills. Thats the right.