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Let’s be honest. From what I see, neither “side” can justifiably claim the moral high ground.

Shouldn’t it be all of us (citizens) vs THEM (politicians)?

Instead somehow the politicians have us quibbling among ourselves at our expense while cruising to pensions we do not get?
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WoodyAq · M
I don't like looking at it from two sides. Nor do I care very much about a politicians "moral highground".

I have things in life I want to accomplish, and views about how society should operate. I vote for people who are the closest to my views and who I think I can have a minimum level of trust.

There are few people whose platform match my ideas closely in every respect. I choose people who are closer than others, with no deal breakers.

I think my "deal breakers" are pretty reasonable: like (federally) kissing up to expansionist dictators and encouraging their worst instincts and coddling foreign spies in America is a big one.

I would have thought more Americans would agree with me on that than do 😕
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@WoodyAq politics is sadly treated more like sports. People choose a team to root for and deeper substance doesn't matter. They cry foul when the referee calls them out on something and won't shut up about it when it's the other guys who get caught.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
You do know that JFK for example meets your definition. @WoodyAq
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Good analogy. Maybe is EASIER for people to dumb it down like that? Probably why the first option on ballot is to vote a straight party ticket. @ViciDraco
WoodyAq · M
@jackjjackson Maybe. But I think I would have likely been a Nixon voter in 1960...
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Crazy, right? Times have changed that’s for sure. @WoodyAq
WoodyAq · M
@jackjjackson I miss Ronald Reagan...

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpwdcmjBgNA]
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
He would be considered a “leftie” today. @WoodyAq
WoodyAq · M
@jackjjackson Sadly, yes. To quote Chris Buckley (son of William F), I didn't leave the Republican Party. They left me.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Excellent. Chris is almost as good as the old man. Almost. Like the old man Chris writes serious stuff and novels. @WoodyAq
WoodyAq · M
@jackjjackson Serious stuff and "Thank you for Smoking."
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Exactly. I was happy to find that after reading all of WFBJR’s books

Woody I have to say that of SW member you are the most agreeable member that disagrees with me sometimes and vice versa. Thank you for your maturity and civility. @WoodyAq
WoodyAq · M
@jackjjackson I don't know whether to say "thank you, and vice versa" or "I'm obviously not trying hard enough" 😉
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Both maybe lol? Reasoned discussion promotes listening. Listening promotes openness to other ideas. Shockingly one sometimes finds that other ideas are good ones. @WoodyAq