Uh, I was going to write an entire novel on this but need to step back. I'll try to keep it short.

I'm a feminist. I agree with modern feminist theory. I do not think the political tactics of many feminists are accomplishing much and may be doing actual harm. Call-outs and focusing on individual purity are just masturbation. Get shit done.

I am unconcerned with its popularity. Feminism has NEVER been popular. I think most of the "Well modern feminism is all radical man-haters, but the second wave was great" is bs. The second wave were called radical man haters with just as much vigour.

I think feminism means different things to different people and so it's impossible to be for or against it. I don't really get the die hards on either side because feminism to me just means human rights but one can also be for human rights and recognize that there's different problems that affect each gender separately. On the male side there's court and legal issues. I could be wrong, so this is just my observation but I hear the courts almost always favor women and male abuse victims especially those of rape are laughed at because we live in a machismo society.

However on the female side, males have never had to fight to be an engineer. I don't remember what decade it was but there was a point in time where brilliant female scientists were nobodies. In school they basically prepped you to be a housewife. Nothing wrong if you want to be one but they should have made those optional classes and not a societal norm. Let's not forget the Magdalene Laundries were some women were locked up because they considered rape a scandal and it wasn't until 1990 that they made marital rape illegal. So if an abuser manipulated a spouse into marrying them, congrats they could rape you because you're property. 1990 wasn't all that long ago.

My fellow feminists in Africa (well they don't call them feminists) but there's an all female tribe because in their part of the country the male can beat his wife and they can't go for help. So this tribe made up of abuse victims gathered together and made their own village. That to me is feminism at its most core, sticking by each other when society shuns and abuses them:

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its not fighting for the right of woman then they would help in africa. no now its man hating.

there is no clear definition on what feminism is...

so people condemming it and people defending it usually talk abotu 2 totally different thigns while they usually would agree on the actual topic

I don't believe feminism, has time periods. It's simply about empowering women. The ultimate goal, is equality between the sexes, at every level, with gains (and an occasional step back), every year.

I dunno.

It's not one thing.

I mean you've got Hélène Cixous and her écriture féminine. Then you've got materialist 1st wave feminists working on the level of policy. And then you've got the Marxist, existentialist, and phenomenological feminists. 3rd wave and 4th wave feminists. Sex positive feminists. Feminist separatists. There's post structural feminism. Post colonial feminists. Women's spirituality feminists. Black womanist feminism. Ecofeminists.

Sadly it all gets weighed these days by Tumblr posts.

When I went to school I learned to write and how to read
History, geography and home economy
And typing is a skill that every girl is sure to need
To while away the extra time until the time to breed
And then they had the nerve to ask, what would I like to be?
I says, "I'm gonna be an engineer!"

"No, you only need to learn to be a lady
The duty isn't yours, for to try to run the world
An engineer could never have a baby
Remember, dear, that you're a girl"

😆

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgzl1Sai4Y0]

Well for me I think you will always have that group that take it too far and it becomes a power struggle of the superior sex, men or women..fact is in some areas men will be in front of us as nature has determined it that way..physical strength being one of the obvious areas. Equality for women is fine but then it should go across the board making no exceptions because we are female, if they want equality give it to them but I guarantee they will then pick and choose where they want the equality and where they dont. Feminism shouldn't be about the emancipation of men..

Western feminism is absurd, nothing but a bunch of clowns seeking their 15 minutes of fame; Eastern/Middle Eastern feminism is genuine and I fully support it

An awful mix of misandry and puritanism.

Some of it is redressing wrongs, other elements feel like a cult.
And feminists can be bad advocates for it. I don't blame anyone wanting the best for their own sex, but don't try to shout me down and lecture me when I have a different perspective on certain things.

From what I've seen, I consider myself a bit of a feminist, but can't relate the raunchy ways that some have portrayed themselves.

double standards

My thought is that's too broad a term to really discuss. Just as in every age, there's an entire spectrum of feminism. However, I find it's mostly productive and geared toward the equality of the sexes.

There are some things modern feminists say that I will agree with. But the other stuff such as mansplaining, I can’t get behind.

I am a supporter of the woman's movement.....especially when I am behind it.

Undoing all the work of feminists before their time? Both hilarious and sad at the same time.. xD :/

Means that women can have it all. Just don't be surprised if some males lose interest .

They are far quicker to express and to stand up for themselves

Hmmmmm they should b less manly

Don't care really.

A lot of it [b]isnt[/b] really feminism now. It’s misandry. Feminism originally existed to help make equal rights and opportunities available to women where they weren’t before. Anything suggesting female supremacy is [b]not[/b] what the original goals were about. And as long as there are still women in the world who are treated as second class citizens in their countries [b]true[/b] feminism (not misandry) will still be relevant.

tis gay

It serves its purpose well.