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Graylight · 51-55, F
@popmol While the women in Africa, I'm sure, could benefit from equality, we're fighting for it right here in our own backyard. In the US, old white men regulate drugs for issues specific to women and believe they can regulate what we do with their bodies or what discussions we have with their physicians.
popmol · 22-25, M
@Graylight i'm sorry but if you care more about tampons then the rapes and other way bigger issues in africa then theres a serious problem. and yes i don't expect everyone who is a feminist to focus on that but theres no much focusing on those things.
vote in women then. at least women that good not just for the fact they are women.
well what drugs do you want?
well i think the thing you are talking about is abortion right. i'm both for it and against it.
well tell them. and if they are old they get their pension there will be some places for you women.
vote in women then. at least women that good not just for the fact they are women.
well what drugs do you want?
well i think the thing you are talking about is abortion right. i'm both for it and against it.
well tell them. and if they are old they get their pension there will be some places for you women.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@popmol Yes. You're conflating two entirely different things. Would you say that (for example) wanting equal pay for doing the same job is wrong? And 'justified' because you were (for example) blue eyed rather than green eyed?
But you're a young person so you'll learn as you get older various things you're unaware of right now.
But you're a young person so you'll learn as you get older various things you're unaware of right now.
popmol · 22-25, M
@HerKing no i'm not conflating 2 entirely different things. feminism yes i don't mind but "MODERN" feminism goes over board wants more for themselves and start nitpicking. more jobs for woman in science and when you ask them also workers like building houses or going into the sewers ooh no not that. thats modern feminism.
first wave feminism is hey we want right. second was voting and now we are atthe third stupid one.
i never stayed i was against equal pay. and i used to be a feminism and still am in the hey african and asians don't have it the best. although going back to a system where only the man works and the woman can stay home might be good.
and its illegal to not pay people the same thing for the same job. that only applies if the other did not get promotions bonuses worked way longer. worked more hours, or has better degrees. if thats all the same then its completely illegal to do that.
it might have happened and then you go to court.
and its also a big problem in your America that you do not like to talk about what you earn. change your own ways. if you knew the guy who does the same job as you started working at the same time does the same hours suddenly get double what you make then yes indeed you have a problem. BUT YOU WOULD KNOW.
if you judge PEOPLE FOR THEIR LANGUAGE THAT THEY USE, AGE, DEGREES then you are loosing an argument because thats not how you do it.
my family are all left and feminist who are constantly on about this but they are missing some points. at least they care about the people in less fair countries and not there inthe west.
now feminism is "OMG a man just whistled at me, let him loose his job make him pay a fine and get him into jail"
first wave feminism is hey we want right. second was voting and now we are atthe third stupid one.
i never stayed i was against equal pay. and i used to be a feminism and still am in the hey african and asians don't have it the best. although going back to a system where only the man works and the woman can stay home might be good.
and its illegal to not pay people the same thing for the same job. that only applies if the other did not get promotions bonuses worked way longer. worked more hours, or has better degrees. if thats all the same then its completely illegal to do that.
it might have happened and then you go to court.
and its also a big problem in your America that you do not like to talk about what you earn. change your own ways. if you knew the guy who does the same job as you started working at the same time does the same hours suddenly get double what you make then yes indeed you have a problem. BUT YOU WOULD KNOW.
if you judge PEOPLE FOR THEIR LANGUAGE THAT THEY USE, AGE, DEGREES then you are loosing an argument because thats not how you do it.
my family are all left and feminist who are constantly on about this but they are missing some points. at least they care about the people in less fair countries and not there inthe west.
now feminism is "OMG a man just whistled at me, let him loose his job make him pay a fine and get him into jail"
HerKing · 61-69, M
@popmol [quote]more jobs for woman in science and when you ask them also workers like building houses or going into the sewers ooh no not that. thats modern feminism.[/quote]
No, that's choice. I know women who are engineers. And that is far from 'clean' in many respects. I suggest you do some growing up son.
No, that's choice. I know women who are engineers. And that is far from 'clean' in many respects. I suggest you do some growing up son.
popmol · 22-25, M
@HerKing NO THATS NOT WHAT I MEAN.
the problem is they say theres under representation in engineering for woman for example which there are less woman. but they are not so bothered if they don't need to do the shity job. then their feminism isn't for equality but jsut for bettering themselves but then i really dislike it. men might have the best jobs but also the worst and woman are more in between. and then woman still need to do the jobs and if they don't want to you're making problems for nothing.
worse of all is firing men to make place for women. make more place by just hiring more but not firing.
the problem is they say theres under representation in engineering for woman for example which there are less woman. but they are not so bothered if they don't need to do the shity job. then their feminism isn't for equality but jsut for bettering themselves but then i really dislike it. men might have the best jobs but also the worst and woman are more in between. and then woman still need to do the jobs and if they don't want to you're making problems for nothing.
worse of all is firing men to make place for women. make more place by just hiring more but not firing.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@popmol [quote]but they are not so bothered if they don't need to do the shity job. then their feminism isn't for equality [/quote]
You think so? Have you ever given birth and brought up a child? No? Well when you have get back to us about how 'unshitty' a job that can be.. The staying awake for days because your child is seriously ill, literally cleaning up your child's shit, vomit.
Can you do that for us?
You think so? Have you ever given birth and brought up a child? No? Well when you have get back to us about how 'unshitty' a job that can be.. The staying awake for days because your child is seriously ill, literally cleaning up your child's shit, vomit.
Can you do that for us?
popmol · 22-25, M
@HerKing
NUMBER 1: WE ARE DIFFERENT AND YOU PEOPLE SHOULD FINALLY NOTICE THAT! THEY MIGHT GIVE BIRTH BUT LOOK AT THE OTHER WAY IT MIGHT BE PAINFUL BUT THEY HAVE A CHOICE. IF A MAN WANTS A CHILD BUT HAS NO WIFE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BUT A LONELY FATHER WIL NOT GET IT EASILY.
NUMBER 2. MEN HAVE LOTS OF TROUBLE WITH HOMRMONES MAKING THEM OFTEN MORE HORNY, THE ONLY TIME THEY CAN GET THAT IS AS FEMALE BODYBUILDERS WHO SAID AFTER TAKING ALL THE PILLS THEY FELT EXTREMELY HORNY ALL THE TIME AND WERE SAD FOR MEN.
NUMBER 3. IT MIGHT BE A SHITTY JOB BUT AGAIN YOU CAN CHOOSE.
NUMBER4. SO BECAUSE THEY GET PAIN FOR BARING A CHILD THEY SHOULD GET ALL THE BEST JOB? NOT BEING WORTHY KNOWLEDGE INTELLIGENCE BUT BECAUSE THEY BARE CHILDREN? SEEMS KINDA UNFAIR TO ME. I'VE BEEN KICKED IN THE BALLS FOR NO REASON THEY DON4T HAVE THAT, SHOULD I GET A BETTER JOB NOW?
NUMBER 5. IN MOST RELATIONSHIP BOTH THE MEN AND THE WOMEN CHANGE DIAPERS AND CARE FOR THE FUCKING CHILD THEY CARE FOR THE WOMAN WHEN SHE IS PREGNANT SO THATS NO REASON THEY SHOULD GET MORE. REST IS THE ONLY THING THEY DESERVE THEN AND LOTS OF MEN CARE FOR THE CHILD AT THE START UNTIL THE MOTHER IS WELL RESTED.
[big]UNLESS YOU LIVE IN A SHITTY PLACE WHERE NONE OF THEM DO THAT BUT THAT SEEMS UNLIKELY AT BEST AND IF SO I WOULD SAY MOVE THE FUCK AWAY![/big]
NUMBER 6. WHEN A CHILD IS SICK THE FATHER WILL CARE FOR IT TOO.
NUMBER 7. ONLY A COUPLE OF WOMAN IN THE TIME OF SECOND WAVE FEMINISM WANTED VOTING RIGHTS AND OTHER RIGHTS IN THOSE TIMES THEY COULD JUST CLEAN THE HOUSE AND CARE FOR THE CHILDREN AND HAVE FREE TIME AFTERWARDS THE ENTIRE DAY WHILE THE MEN WORKED TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN SURVIVE. I WAS NOT THE ONE WHO CHOSE FOR THEM TO WORK.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOO. BUT NOW THAT THEY DO THEY ONLY WANT THE GOOD JOBS. I DON4T CARE IF WOMAN DON'T.
NUMBER 8. THERE'S BIOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WOMAN AND MEN. THEY ARE IN GENERAL NOT SO STRONG SO ITS HARDER FOR THEM TO LIFT THE THINGS WE ALWAYS LIFT SO I UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A WORKER AND THEY ARE MORE FOR CARING AND ARTISTIC WHILE WE ARE MORE SCIENTIFIC. SO ITS OBVIOUS THAT THERES MORE PEOPLE IN ENGINEERING JOBS AND THEY MORE TEACHERS CARETAKERS AND THOSE THINGS ALIKE.
[big]AND THE FINAL ONE! THE FASTER PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THESE FEMINIST UNDERSTAND THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN THAT CAN NOT BE CHANGED CERTAINLY NOT BY LAW THE FASTER WE CAN MAKE THE WORLD BETTER, MEN WHEN SEEING A NICE WOMAN WHISTLE OR SAY HI, AND WOMAN HAVE IT EASIER BECAUSE IN GENERAL MEN ARE WIRED TO PROTECT WOMEN, THEY ARE IN GENERAL WEAKER WHICH MEAN HEY DON4T HAVE TO JOIN THE ARMY DON'T NEED TO DO HEAVY LIFTING. AND THIS IS HOW OUR SPECIES ARE.[/big]
AND IF ITS SOMETHING LIKE EQUAL PAY THEN YES I4M IN BUT IF YOU WANT THING YOU DO NOT DESERVE THEN NO. A WOMAN DOESN'T DESERVE AN ENGINEERS POSITION FOR GIVING BIRTH IF THERES A GUY WITH 10 DEGREES AND WAY MORE FIT FOR THE JOB.
AND THIS IS JUST ONE THING THESE RIDICULOUS "MODERN" FEMINIST WANTS
[big]
CAN WE DO THAT OR CAN I DO THAT? MEN ARE THE WORKERS WHO SIT IN THE SEWERS CLEANING THE SHIT THE PIPES SO WIPING A BABIES BUT SEEMS LIKE A EASIER JOB[/big]
NUMBER 1: WE ARE DIFFERENT AND YOU PEOPLE SHOULD FINALLY NOTICE THAT! THEY MIGHT GIVE BIRTH BUT LOOK AT THE OTHER WAY IT MIGHT BE PAINFUL BUT THEY HAVE A CHOICE. IF A MAN WANTS A CHILD BUT HAS NO WIFE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BUT A LONELY FATHER WIL NOT GET IT EASILY.
NUMBER 2. MEN HAVE LOTS OF TROUBLE WITH HOMRMONES MAKING THEM OFTEN MORE HORNY, THE ONLY TIME THEY CAN GET THAT IS AS FEMALE BODYBUILDERS WHO SAID AFTER TAKING ALL THE PILLS THEY FELT EXTREMELY HORNY ALL THE TIME AND WERE SAD FOR MEN.
NUMBER 3. IT MIGHT BE A SHITTY JOB BUT AGAIN YOU CAN CHOOSE.
NUMBER4. SO BECAUSE THEY GET PAIN FOR BARING A CHILD THEY SHOULD GET ALL THE BEST JOB? NOT BEING WORTHY KNOWLEDGE INTELLIGENCE BUT BECAUSE THEY BARE CHILDREN? SEEMS KINDA UNFAIR TO ME. I'VE BEEN KICKED IN THE BALLS FOR NO REASON THEY DON4T HAVE THAT, SHOULD I GET A BETTER JOB NOW?
NUMBER 5. IN MOST RELATIONSHIP BOTH THE MEN AND THE WOMEN CHANGE DIAPERS AND CARE FOR THE FUCKING CHILD THEY CARE FOR THE WOMAN WHEN SHE IS PREGNANT SO THATS NO REASON THEY SHOULD GET MORE. REST IS THE ONLY THING THEY DESERVE THEN AND LOTS OF MEN CARE FOR THE CHILD AT THE START UNTIL THE MOTHER IS WELL RESTED.
[big]UNLESS YOU LIVE IN A SHITTY PLACE WHERE NONE OF THEM DO THAT BUT THAT SEEMS UNLIKELY AT BEST AND IF SO I WOULD SAY MOVE THE FUCK AWAY![/big]
NUMBER 6. WHEN A CHILD IS SICK THE FATHER WILL CARE FOR IT TOO.
NUMBER 7. ONLY A COUPLE OF WOMAN IN THE TIME OF SECOND WAVE FEMINISM WANTED VOTING RIGHTS AND OTHER RIGHTS IN THOSE TIMES THEY COULD JUST CLEAN THE HOUSE AND CARE FOR THE CHILDREN AND HAVE FREE TIME AFTERWARDS THE ENTIRE DAY WHILE THE MEN WORKED TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN SURVIVE. I WAS NOT THE ONE WHO CHOSE FOR THEM TO WORK.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOO. BUT NOW THAT THEY DO THEY ONLY WANT THE GOOD JOBS. I DON4T CARE IF WOMAN DON'T.
NUMBER 8. THERE'S BIOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WOMAN AND MEN. THEY ARE IN GENERAL NOT SO STRONG SO ITS HARDER FOR THEM TO LIFT THE THINGS WE ALWAYS LIFT SO I UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A WORKER AND THEY ARE MORE FOR CARING AND ARTISTIC WHILE WE ARE MORE SCIENTIFIC. SO ITS OBVIOUS THAT THERES MORE PEOPLE IN ENGINEERING JOBS AND THEY MORE TEACHERS CARETAKERS AND THOSE THINGS ALIKE.
[big]AND THE FINAL ONE! THE FASTER PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THESE FEMINIST UNDERSTAND THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN THAT CAN NOT BE CHANGED CERTAINLY NOT BY LAW THE FASTER WE CAN MAKE THE WORLD BETTER, MEN WHEN SEEING A NICE WOMAN WHISTLE OR SAY HI, AND WOMAN HAVE IT EASIER BECAUSE IN GENERAL MEN ARE WIRED TO PROTECT WOMEN, THEY ARE IN GENERAL WEAKER WHICH MEAN HEY DON4T HAVE TO JOIN THE ARMY DON'T NEED TO DO HEAVY LIFTING. AND THIS IS HOW OUR SPECIES ARE.[/big]
AND IF ITS SOMETHING LIKE EQUAL PAY THEN YES I4M IN BUT IF YOU WANT THING YOU DO NOT DESERVE THEN NO. A WOMAN DOESN'T DESERVE AN ENGINEERS POSITION FOR GIVING BIRTH IF THERES A GUY WITH 10 DEGREES AND WAY MORE FIT FOR THE JOB.
AND THIS IS JUST ONE THING THESE RIDICULOUS "MODERN" FEMINIST WANTS
[big]
CAN WE DO THAT OR CAN I DO THAT? MEN ARE THE WORKERS WHO SIT IN THE SEWERS CLEANING THE SHIT THE PIPES SO WIPING A BABIES BUT SEEMS LIKE A EASIER JOB[/big]
HerKing · 61-69, M
@popmol [quote]you've experienced more but a new view is as important as an old one.[/quote]
Look...Not my line but worthwhile...When I was your age, I thought I knew more about life than I know now.
When it comes to this thing we call life, you'll find that as each day/week/month and year goes by, things happen to you that can and do eventually make you re-evaluate things you took as the 'word'.. And you son will be the same which is why we're going easy on you.
Look...Not my line but worthwhile...When I was your age, I thought I knew more about life than I know now.
When it comes to this thing we call life, you'll find that as each day/week/month and year goes by, things happen to you that can and do eventually make you re-evaluate things you took as the 'word'.. And you son will be the same which is why we're going easy on you.
popmol · 22-25, M
@HerKing wrong XD i know i don't know everything.
but just think about the frog in the pot with boiling water and the ones that slowly gets cooking. you've been in the cooking pot for 50 years you're used to it. i'm young and get thrown into a boiling pot.
you have seen things i've never seen and i see things you cannot see.
but just think about the frog in the pot with boiling water and the ones that slowly gets cooking. you've been in the cooking pot for 50 years you're used to it. i'm young and get thrown into a boiling pot.
you have seen things i've never seen and i see things you cannot see.
Pherick · 41-45, M
@popmol I swear, I am too tired right now, but seriously everything you type in that all caps rant is just wrong.
Not like I "think" you are wrong, but factually, based on real history wrong. Then when its not factually wrong (because its not a fact) its you rambling about things that are STILL wrong.
[quote]NUMBER 1: WE ARE DIFFERENT AND YOU PEOPLE SHOULD FINALLY NOTICE THAT! THEY MIGHT GIVE BIRTH BUT LOOK AT THE OTHER WAY IT MIGHT BE PAINFUL BUT THEY HAVE A CHOICE. IF A MAN WANTS A CHILD BUT HAS NO WIFE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BUT A LONELY FATHER WIL NOT GET IT EASILY.[/quote]
I am not sure what to even say here. I really don't even know what you are trying to say? What are you referring to?
Its start to look like some incel BS.
Not like I "think" you are wrong, but factually, based on real history wrong. Then when its not factually wrong (because its not a fact) its you rambling about things that are STILL wrong.
[quote]NUMBER 1: WE ARE DIFFERENT AND YOU PEOPLE SHOULD FINALLY NOTICE THAT! THEY MIGHT GIVE BIRTH BUT LOOK AT THE OTHER WAY IT MIGHT BE PAINFUL BUT THEY HAVE A CHOICE. IF A MAN WANTS A CHILD BUT HAS NO WIFE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BUT A LONELY FATHER WIL NOT GET IT EASILY.[/quote]
I am not sure what to even say here. I really don't even know what you are trying to say? What are you referring to?
Its start to look like some incel BS.