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PSA to fellow Anti-Trump People

People who are against Trump need to stop calling him "populist." Though that word has many definitions, the most-intuitive definition is the one given by Google: "a member or adherent of a political party seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people." That's not what Trump is, and smearing Trump as "populist" will only make people think you are against him for being pro-people (again, he isn't). And that makes you look like a lunatic and makes Trump look good, the opposite of what you wanted to do.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@WindOfAdolf Wtf. You all act like Trump is Jesus. Trump was a billionaire when he went in and he's still one now what the hell are you going on about.

Trump had funding from multiple groups during his campaign.. I know I know he told you he funded it himself also a lie.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@WindOfAdolf Not everyone pays attention to celebrity culture so that's irrelevant.

I still don't see what that has to do with anything. When Trump says inflammatory things he does so on purpose, he brings the ire upon himself. It's up to him to handle it like a grown person.

Obama had to put up with 8 years of conservatives making fun of his skin color and talking about Muslim invasions for his entire presidency. Actually now going on about 9 years since Trump hadn't given up on the rhetoric so Trump can handle it like a big boy, honestly.

At some point you got to realize that Trump does it on purpose and I'm not stupid because I recognize the political tactics. You should too.
Trump believer's, his base, need to stop using terms such as "LIBTARD", "OBOZO",
"KILLIARY *", "HALF BREED", "WET BACKS", Etc., it shows their level of ignorance, racism, selfishness, disdain, hatred, and lack of empathy for other people. This country was built on people helping each other, the kindness of strangers, and relying on each other to tell the truth, and on those who gave their lives to protect those basic principals. The laws are not written to protect the POTUS from the people they are written to protect the people from a dictator POTUS from the people and end Democracy. The investigation isn't over yet.
* SPELLING EDIT 😉
Roflcash4 · 22-25, M
@softspokenman Killary*
gfantasy · 56-60, M
Not sure about your reasoning. "Populist" definitely has a negative connotation, it's not being "pro-people"... perhaps it's matter of semantics. Note the operative work [i]seeking[/i]:

"a member or adherent of a political party [i]seeking[/i] to represent the interests of ordinary people".

"Seeking" as in "[i]pretenting[/i]". Webster's dctionary definition uses "claiming" instead:

"a member of a political party [i]claiming[/i] to represent the common people"

In both cases it's implied that the person wants to be [i]perceived[/i] as "representing the interests of ordinary people".

Bottom line, "ordinary people" are not the kind of bothering with definitions or semantics. They'll love the guy no matter what, because he says he'll help them...
33person · 26-30, M
@gfantasy Most people don't even know what "liberal" and "conservative" mean with much accuracy. Knowledgeable people are aware of the word's negative connotations, but I think attacking Trump as being "populist" is just going to make most people think you're elitist.
gfantasy · 56-60, M
@33person I think it's hopeless... Saying anything against their Great Leader would come out as elitist, libtard, anti-American, pro-crime, etc...
33person · 26-30, M
@gfantasy Probably true. But smearing Trump as populist might make people who don't support Trump think that you are even more right wing than Trump, so all I am saying is that using this word is likely to convey to people a variety of things, few of which are what you intended to convey.
33person · 26-30, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Since when does Hitler sit under a rainbow with pajamas and bare feet?
lorne13 · 61-69, M
he's a wanna be enforcer and tough guy who has no idea how to get there
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He’s a fascist.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
[image deleted]@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
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I suggest you buy some street oxy...right down your street.@SW-User
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Keraunos · 36-40, M
All I can say is the most intuitive definition given by Google (or, more accurately, how you have chosen to interpret it) is rather at odds with what the word actually signifies. Trump would make any shortlist of people whose photo might belong next to the entry for "populist" in the dictionary. I think you may just be operating with a somewhat vague grasp on what populism actually means.
Keraunos · 36-40, M
What I mean is, regarding

[quote]I genuinely believe that if you smear Trump as being populist, that's more likely to gain him support than lose him support.[/quote]

, it is not supposed to be about "smearing" him or trying to shape anyone's perspectives of him. Although populism generally carries some moderately negative connotations, the important thing is: [i]"populist" accurately describes Trump[/i]. You cannot go into a discussion about something intending to knowingly deny that it is what it is just because you're afraid the person you're talking to might not know what a particular word means. That problem is solved by explaining to them the meaning of the word in question.

I mean, I guess you [i]can[/i] go into a discussion with those intentions, but don't expect anyone else to see a point to it or play along with you.
33person · 26-30, M
@Keraunos I go into every discussion with the intention of conveying to people clearly exactly what I intend to convey. Populist is a VERY misleading word, like "inflammable," which means "flammable." Since people already don't know what I mean when I say "liberal," I wouldn't want to be more confusing than necessary.
Keraunos · 36-40, M
You are honestly the first person I've spoken to in my life who has perceived any ambiguity in the definition of "populist", but if you personally don't like using it, that's of course all well and good. Again, though, it means what it means, most people use it that way, Trump is a populist, and it's unreasonable to expect anyone [i]else[/i] to not call black black just because you claim it could confuse someone.

As for "liberal", with its myriad historical contexts — that word really has by now become something into which anyone feels entitled to inject whatever content they like. I could not be more supportive of you and anyone else who uses it being [i]very[/i] clear on what they mean by it to avoid misunderstandings. But "populist" really does just have the one general meaning, and any confusion in its case can be quickly remedied by supplying it.
MougyWolf · 36-40, M
I've always just known him as a "megalomaniac" and as an "ass-hat". Apparently, some people really dig that.
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Brainwashed and blinded by your emotions. THINK. Don't feel. THINK. Use your fucking head.
Roflcash4 · 22-25, M
Why is this in the Questions section? No questions were asked at all...
There are only 2 options for a post: Story or Question.@Roflcash4
Roflcash4 · 22-25, M
@softspokenman I know, EP was better
SW isn't perfect like EP was. (I remember dude)@Roflcash4
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@therighttothink50 They have ears to ear but don’t hear. They have eyes to see but don’t see. That’s what Jesus says about blind people!

 
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