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Why Americans like rapid firing rifles so much? Because of personal defense or fear of tyranny?

I'm not talking about the little guns that you can hide in the glove box but those big ones that you have to hold with both hands. Why do you need them?

If its for personal defense, you're an idiot and if your entire defense strategy depends on having a big gun that can shoot lots if bullets quickly, you are missing chromosomes and are not responsible enough to have such a weapon.

If its because you're scared of tyranny, if I was some kind of dictator, I'd want you to have lots of guns simply because I could then send in my army with helicopters and long range weaponry.

When the constitution was written, guns were primitive compared to today. You couldn't go into a class room and kill 30 children in less than a minute with one. Also, the English were a problem back then but these days the English don't want to be in charge of USA. Seriously, if you offered us your country, we wouldn't want it.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
All firearms are dangerous. Even the little ones in the glove box.

Last I checked, the murder rate in London now exceeds the murder rate in New York City. Violence has less to do with firearms and everything to do with hate and the rhetoric that promotes violence.

[quote]Seriously, if you offered us your country, we wouldn't want it.[/quote]

I was a frequent visitor to England probably before you were born. My impression was that the people there were very accommodating, pleasant and respectful.

Apparently that has all changed.
1GHOST · M
@Heartlander Hmmm some of your ancestors .....dang guess we missed our chance on that one .....😂
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@QuixoticSoul Thanks! And yes, better to celebrate NYC success than London's failure.

I lived there briefly in the early 1970's and was otherwise a frequent visitor. I think it at one point had descended to official "shit-hole" status. Given the choice of a week in Manhattan or a week in Saigon in the middle of that war, I would have picked Saigon as a place where I felt safer.
1GHOST · M
@Heartlander yeah the 70s would not have been good .
Coppercoil · M
As if we care what you think.
MrSimons · 41-45, M
Here in the UK, there isn't really the gun culture that you have in America. Personally, I have never even held a real gun, let alone fired one and I really have no desire to own one. Even the thought of just holding such a deadly weapon is terrifying to me, which makes me a bit of a wimp, I know.

Having said that though, I can quite understand the argument for gun ownership. If you prevent law abiding people from owning guns, the only people who will have them will be criminals. Criminals don't care if the law says they are not allowed to own a gun. It makes good sense that law abiding people should be able to own guns in order defend themselves. With some of the recent shootings, lives could have been saved if someone had been armed and was able to take out the shooter.

As far as the possibility of a tyrannical government rising, it would be far more difficult for that tyrannical government to control people when they are armed.

"When the constitution was written, guns were primitive compared to today."

That wouldn't change the need to own guns for defense purposes. Surely, it could be argued that the need would only increase with more advanced guns. You would need to match your weaponry to that which is owned by the bad guys.
@MrSimons That’s the narrative. But these shootings happen in states without strong gun control and no “good guy with a gun” has stepped forward. In fact during the Parkland school massacre a policeman, whose job it was to be that person didn’t or couldn’t enter the building.
fazer1k · 56-60, M
@MrSimons Would you want your children to live in fear of being shot and killed every day they go to school? I'm surprised Americans haven't rebelled and refused to send their children to school until action is taken over these school shootings.

Americans are 25 times more likely to be shot to death than the citizens of any other developed nation - that's what a 'gun culture' does for a nation.
Northwest · M
The year is 2018, not 1818.

There are those who own a weapon, and that would be a single weapon, typically a hand gun. They don't brag about it, they don't take out on date nights, and they don't masturbate with its image in mind. This group is not typically made up of fanatics, and while their fears are somewhat unrealistic, they are understandable.

There's another group of Americans, who fantasize about guns, collect them, caress them, polish them, and join the NRA, to make sure their fantasies are not interrupted.

I'm sure there are a few people who fill the gap in between these two groups.

Bottom line, is that there's no way to rationalize this, especially given our polarized state of affairs.
1GHOST · M
Baaaah your all goofy .
I own several weapons ( note i have one that can engage your helicopter at 1.5 miles ) .
I own them because i can and i like them . period .
Not do to some conspiracy theory.
AlphaCuckTX · 56-60, M
Because we can mow down more whiny ass liberals before we have to reload.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@AlphaCuckTX Chicago is a misleading and false example of gun control for a myriad of reasons. This has been discussed ad nauseam on the internet.

Neither I nor most people Advocate the complete ban of firearms. Ban does not equal regulation. We regulate nearly everything the American Consumer can buy or use. Why not the one thing causing unnecessary misdirected death and destruction?

You have the right to defend yourself, and SCOTUS has said as much. You also have the right to smoke. What's in question is your right to harm others on both counts.
AlphaCuckTX · 56-60, M
Which bring us back to your circular argument, because no one has the "Right" to harm others! That is just an excuse to try and impose more regulations on law abiding citizens that criminal elements will continue to ignore.
Whine all you want about how Chicago is not a valid example, case in point if it weren't nobody would be arguing over it.
Fortunately I live in a Castle state, so If I ever harm anyone with any of my guns it'll be in defense of my home, family, and self and I will not shoot to wound.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@AlphaCuckTX The only people arguing about Chicago are conservatives - the rest of the information is just that...information and data.

It is not a circular argument to say that the result of firearms is unintended destruction and death. That's a fact. If you have the right to bear arms and no one ever got hurt, this wouldn't be an argument. But guns lead to hurt and that cost the average taxpayer life, limb, loved ones and money.

It's the law-abiding citizens who are responsible for almost half of gun deaths. This fantasy of a boogyman lurking in every corner with firearms is just that; a fantasy.

I live in a Castle state, too. In fact, one that encourages ownership and use of firearms. And while I would protect my family, I can do so non-lethally. And no object I own, from the dollar store to a priceless artifact, will ever be worth more than a human life.
InvaderNice · 26-30, M
Just to aid your terminology, you’re asking why Americans like fully automatic rifles. Fully automatic means rapid-fire.

I think they should be legal, simply because I haven’t found a reason to believe otherwise. The arguments against it just don’t hold up. Do I, personally, care for a fully automatic rifle? No. But that doesn’t mean I think no one else should have one.
InvaderNice · 26-30, M
@MrSimons There’s no proof of that. I don’t see why a potential school shooter wouldn’t be willing to illegally obtain a firearm.
MrSimons · 41-45, M
@InvaderNice But it would be harder for them?
InvaderNice · 26-30, M
@MrSimons It would also be harder for good guys.
Using them against the government when the government has nuclear weapons would likely be futile.
@Einstok This President would drop a nuke on my state without batting an eye. 🙄
Einstok · 36-40, M
@bijouxbroussard But would he know what the button did before pushing it?
AlphaCuckTX · 56-60, M
@bijouxbroussard Wow I bet Canada looks pretty good right about now.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Ask the parents in Alaska if they need a semi-automatic firearm to protect their families.
Einstok · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 I lived in Alaska for 2 years and I never needed a Semi-automatic firearm.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Einstok Outstanding! Unfortunately not all of Alaska is civilized.
Einstok · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 Yeah, I lived in the Bush.
Batman · 41-45, M
Guns are a part of America, if you don’t want one you are free not to buy one.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Batman Yeah, but if I don't want to die, I'm not exactly free from being shot with one.
Einstok · 36-40, M
Guns are fun.
Abbenthewarwolf · 18-21, M

 
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