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Do u believe that all assault weapons should be banned in the US ? 馃敨

Unless you are in law enforcement or a military person or personnel. What do you think. Should regular law abiding citizens be able to own assault weapons. 300 school shootings since 2012 and counting. 馃敟
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Carver31-35, F
Banned from the public, yes. I'm all for the Second Amendment but I never understood what we the public need assault weapons for. They're not used to hunt wildlife, they're not even ideal for personal defense...
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Carver What is an assault weapon? A baseball bat? A bow and arrow? A musket?
Carver31-35, F
@hippyjoe1955 Assault rifles.
MrBrownstone46-50, M
@Carver Assault weapons are for overthrowing the government.
Zonuss41-45, M
@Carver I agree.
Carver31-35, F
@MrBrownstone And they've been put to great use on that, haven't they?
MrBrownstone46-50, M
@Carver Because people rather argue stupid shit.
Zonuss41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 You know what an assault weapon is.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Carver What is an assault rifle. My old single shot .22 probably took more lives than most semi automatic rifles. Of course I was hunting ground squirrels and coyotes.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Zonuss Actually the term assault weapon is meaningless as it refers to any weapon used to perform an assault. You fist could be deemed and assault weapon.
Carver31-35, F
@hippyjoe1955 You just proved that the term "assault rifle" is just as meaningless with your last reply to me. You know you're only making yourself look foolish now by acting all coy, right? Also, a weapon is an inanimate object. In no world would a fist be considered a weapon. 馃檮
Zonuss41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 You're getting caught up in petty semantics here. You're pathetic.
Carver31-35, F
@MrBrownstone There you go, so they're not going to be used to overthrow anything.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Carver Actually you are the one looking silly here trotting out some liberal dog whistle term that is meaningless except to inflame passions. Assault (bad event no one should be assaulted) Weapon a thing used to hurt or kill (a bad thing no one should be hurt or killed) Together they are highly emotional drivel since it is not at all defined.
MrBrownstone46-50, M
@Carver Well using your logic,criminals will obey the law.
Carver31-35, F
@hippyjoe1955 Lmao! Now you're just deflecting. I already know you're not all that bright anyway so this exchange is pointless.
Carver31-35, F
@MrBrownstone Of course criminals will find a way to get them anyway but that's not the point...
MrBrownstone46-50, M
@Carver Actually it is.
Carver31-35, F
@MrBrownstone Lol, no it isn't. But you're clearly not that good of a listener either so I won't waste my time explaining it.
MrBrownstone46-50, M
@Carver Which is another way of saying I鈥檓 right.
Carver31-35, F
@MrBrownstone Yep. 馃憤
@MrBrownstone

Actually it's not.
Criminals will always be able to get their hands on them but making them harder to get and more expensive and risky to obtain means fewer criminals will have them.
And maybe it also means a 19 year old with a recorded history of violence and mental issues won't be able to pick up an assault rifle and god shoot a bunch of high school kids.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu Ha ha ha yeah that will work. NOT!!!! Here in Canada we have had very tight controls over pistols since 1937. I never saw a real pistol until I was in the airforce. I asked a cop one day after the government decided to control rifles and shotguns how hard it was to get a gun on the black market. He laughed and told me that if I wanted a pistol he could get one for me in about 5 minutes. A few months later my daughter heard gun shots out side the house. We went out to find a man bleeding from a gun shot wound to the neck. Gun control simply doesn't work and it wastes resources with the huge cost associated with it. It cost the Canadian government 2 billion dollars to register 2 million rifles. The trouble is most people who had rifles and shotguns did not register all of their weapons. They would register 1 and keep 2 or 3 secret. Every few months they go out to the tool shed or barn and clean their secret weapons to keep them in working order.
@hippyjoe1955


Hahahaha!馃槀 Are you being serious right now?
So let's examine what you just wrote:

"Here's my personal anecdote about how a cop told me he could get a gun and how one time i was near someone who got shot.
Therefor gun control could never work and and restricting the number and kind of guns available to citizens wouldn't help prevent gun violence."

Just answer me this: You're from canada, why is it that canada doesn't have mass shootings the way america does? We share a lot of the same culture, consume the same media. One major difference is the number of guns around and the kinds of guns that are available to citizens. Could that maybe account for the discrepancy?
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu So there is very strict gun control in Canada. FACT. There are lots of people killed by guns in Canada FACT. The government doesn't know how many guns private citizens have FACT. Hand guns are virtually banned but a family I know was killed by someone who used a hand gun FACT. One of the homeless guys I am trying help showed me the handgun he bought in the local bar. FACT. Guns are easy to get in Canada despite the government trying to ban them. FACT.
@hippyjoe1955

Yup. Those are all facts.
But you failed to answer my question, joe.

I didn't say there is no gun violence in canada. I didn't say that you can't get a hand gun illegally or otherwise.

I DID challenge you to explain why the US has so many more shootings and MASS shootings than canada if the reason ISN'T the the abundance and easy availability of guns designed to kill people, lost of people, quickly.

But you want to talk facts. Excellent.

The US has more mass shootings than the next several countries combined. [c=#BF0000]FACT[/c].
The US is less than 5% of the worlds population but is responsible for 30% of mass shootings.[c=#BF0000]FACT[/c].
Death by shooting is 25 times higher in the US than in other developed nations.[c=#BF0000]FACT[/c]
In the past 20 years or so, canada has had 7 mass shootings. The US has had [i]30[/i] in 2018. [c=#BF0000]FACT[/c].