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Cierzo · M
@ScabbyHeart Thank you for some sanity.
CopperCicada · M
It is largely through my friendships with people from around the world that I came to understand the endless proxy wars implicit in US globalism. That's when I started being unable to associate myself with either major party.
I had hoped that Trump would be different. But he's not.
I had hoped that Trump would be different. But he's not.
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Northwest · M
@jackjjackson It's our policies, and by that, I mean the 40th-43rd policies that created the conundrums.
We're back to the same place, even worse, with the 45th.
We're back to the same place, even worse, with the 45th.
CopperCicada · M
@WalksWith I agree. I am very fortunate to always have been exposed to a wide spectrum of people and views. When things happen, the first thing I do is usually seek out people as far from my background as possible and get their take.
No. I'm not surprised that people know very little about First Nations and Original People. Even in their own backyards. 2% of the population-- invisible. I guess I was lucky in that regard as well.
No. I'm not surprised that people know very little about First Nations and Original People. Even in their own backyards. 2% of the population-- invisible. I guess I was lucky in that regard as well.
katielass · F
@Cierzo They were indicted. That was how they meddled in our election. Put fake news on twitter and fb that probably didn't even influence one vote and pretended to be Americans. Then held rallies after the election that were both anti and pro trump. I don't believe they were charged with that as it's not a crime. Just incidental info.
CopperCicada · M
@puck61 Obama was just one of many. As is Trump. This is the way of post-WW2 America.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I don't think Trump 'colluded'.
His son wanted to and Comey was probably fired as a dumb way of Trump protecting his businesses from being investigated. There is no public evidence of collusion and nobody should trust the CIA. What would Russia even gain by working with Trump during the election, unless it was an attempt to implicate him?
As of the Russian bots thing, well yeah. No shit.
Cyber warfare happens and everyone does it. Britain and the US do it, China do it, so do North Korea and Russia. This is obviously wrong and all sides but should surprise nobody. The only surprising thing here is that America got played instead of being the player.
His son wanted to and Comey was probably fired as a dumb way of Trump protecting his businesses from being investigated. There is no public evidence of collusion and nobody should trust the CIA. What would Russia even gain by working with Trump during the election, unless it was an attempt to implicate him?
As of the Russian bots thing, well yeah. No shit.
Cyber warfare happens and everyone does it. Britain and the US do it, China do it, so do North Korea and Russia. This is obviously wrong and all sides but should surprise nobody. The only surprising thing here is that America got played instead of being the player.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Northwest My reading of this is that Trump Junior got played by the Russians. What he did was both stupid and with corrupt intent. Whether it fits the legal definition of collusion, I'm not sure.
According to Michael Wolff, none of Trump's team thinks he has worked with Putin but all of them think that he is worried about the dodgy family business dealings being investigated.
According to Michael Wolff, none of Trump's team thinks he has worked with Putin but all of them think that he is worried about the dodgy family business dealings being investigated.
Northwest · M
@Burnley123 I doubt Uday would have taken the initiative, without consulting with his father.
Trump does not think like a conventional person, and I'm not saying this as a compliment. He thinks like a bully, the CEO of a shady group of companies, that grow at the expense of others'. He ran his campaign that way, and he's running the country the same way.
I'm sure he does not think of it as collusion. To him, it's "being smart" and using every tool available to you, to win. During one of the debates, he turned into a joke (encouraging the Russians), but that exposed exactly the way he thinks.
This is un-American. I hope voters wake up to that fact.
His family business dealings, may lead to Russian oligarchs and expose how bad of a business person he is, and that's exactly what he fears.
Trump does not think like a conventional person, and I'm not saying this as a compliment. He thinks like a bully, the CEO of a shady group of companies, that grow at the expense of others'. He ran his campaign that way, and he's running the country the same way.
I'm sure he does not think of it as collusion. To him, it's "being smart" and using every tool available to you, to win. During one of the debates, he turned into a joke (encouraging the Russians), but that exposed exactly the way he thinks.
This is un-American. I hope voters wake up to that fact.
His family business dealings, may lead to Russian oligarchs and expose how bad of a business person he is, and that's exactly what he fears.
jackjjackson · 70-79, M
That pretty well sums it up @Burnley123
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jackjjackson · 70-79, M
What do you think he/she is doing lol? @Cierzo
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Cierzo Isn't that what Trump tried to instigate a week into office ??
Cierzo · M
@Picklebobble2 Is it Trump or the CIA?
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nedkelly · 61-69, M
NO
Dale321 · M
There is always the guy who says in one form or another “but we do that”.
WTF dude. It’s international politics and spying/interference. Are you saying because we likely have done similar things, this case should be ignored?
You get busted and convicted then you suffer the consequences.
WTF dude. It’s international politics and spying/interference. Are you saying because we likely have done similar things, this case should be ignored?
You get busted and convicted then you suffer the consequences.
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katielass · F
@jackjjackson The only thing missing is the indictment against oblamo.