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Islamic terrorism. Why does it exist? Is there something inherent within the religion itself, or a reaction to Western activity?

antisocialbutterfly · 26-30, F
Islam terrorism is simply a misinterpretation of a peaceful religion that has tragically resulted in the loss of so many lives. It is like the Salem witch hunts and Crusades are for the Christian faith, something that will be looked back on with very low favor. So many other people have chosen to interpret that the word of God calls them to act violently, although there is nothing in the word of any currently practiced religion that calls the believers to come to acts of violence.
SW-User
If you really want to relate terrorism with Islam, you have to read the book. There can't BE Islamic terrorism because the scriptures have been around for 1500 years and Islamic terrorism started around what time? 2001 in 9/11? It makes no sense to make a correlation that's over a millennia late dude :/
If it WAS an attribute to the religion, we had 1500 years to see it......

It's not even Western activity, but more so the evil and stupidity within every human being. Some people are very bad, others are very good and then there is in between. You know for a fact that suicidal atheists and Christians committed mass shootings before but it's never attributed to the religion (or atheism) because it makes no SENSE. You know for a fact that it was an individual choice, so you mentally disconnect the two, but how can you do the same thing with ANOTHER religion XD. Don't fall into the same mistake with another religion just because it's a trend :p
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@SW-User Enough said. That was brilliant. I know I couldn’t have said it better.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
It's a bit of both. Western powers have been meddling in the Middle East for centuries now, so there's a long history of events building up to the present that contribute. But the doctrine of the religion itself does also contribute. Nearly every major religion includes some grounds to justify war, even wars of aggression, but Islam is a more special case than most. The Quran was written by one guy in his own lifetime as he led his movement through war, into statehood, and into empire. The variety of situations he encountered often called for different measures, ranging from pacifism to aggression. So to make his actions legitimate, he wrote them into the Quran. It provides a singular timeline of justification for just about anything. Holy texts that were compiled over the course of centuries are a bit less susceptible to this effect. They provide a "that was then and this is now" kind of context. But the Quran is so compact that it hems everything into a single perspective, and hence detracts from others.
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SW-User
1.7 billion muslims, so if that statement was true you might be already dead
katielass · F
@SW-User That's like saying every man who thinks about another woman will cheat.
SW-User
@katielass that’s an interesting statement. care to elaborate?
SW-User
@katielass Think whatever you want, just presenting the stats
Pherick · 41-45, M
I think you can have terrorism with any extreme viewpoints. When your viewpoints become more important than people, and you are willing to kill, then you are a terrorist.

This happens with hard right groups, happens with hard left groups, happens with labor groups, happens with business groups, etc.

Currently, we just have an area of the world where these type of groups are thriving for a huge number of reasons. In that kind of environment, they are able to export their brand of hatred across the world.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
I’m pretty sure Trump said that Obama was the founder of ISIS so maybe we should ask Trump.
JP1119 · 36-40, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout And who was it that “disposed of Saddam”?
@JP1119 who was it who allowed isis to fill that hole. Who gave isis guns and intel, fired Mattis for being too effective..
JP1119 · 36-40, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Beats me. Not Obama.
Northwest · M
Some people are psychopaths and that condition manifests itself in the form of terrorism, or other acts of extreme violence.

Some psychopaths may "follow" a certain religion or cause, and use that as a fig leaf. Some do not bother. Some simply pick up a gun and start shooting people randomly in a quiet community in Northern California. Some drive hijacked planes into the WTC, and some set up a trap for concert goer's in Las Vegas and gun them down, indiscriminately.

If terrorism is inherent to Islam, you would have hundreds of millions of terrorists on your hands.
UkBull · 41-45, M
@SW-User Well actually, it makes plenty of sense "dude". Can you differentiate between Islam and Islamism? Because that's your answer. Islamism didn't exist 1500 years ago, it's a relatively modern phenomenon. Terrorism, driven and motivated by Islam exists, open your eyes.
UkBull · 41-45, M
@SW-User Lol don't blame semantics for a very specific statement. I understood clearly what you meant.

I don't mean to be rude but I don't think you really understand half of the things you're saying. For instance, you say Islamism is separate to Islam. How on earth can it be? Islamism is just an advocacy for Islamic law as laid down in various Islamic scriptures. Also if you've read any of the Quran, you'll know there are passages which even Islamic scholars can't agree the meaning of, so to suggest things become twisted (if it's something we don't like) is a slightly arrogant view to take. In fact, most fundamentalists take a very literal interpretation of the texts.

I understand the point you're making about it not being "inherent" and that's fair enough, I just think you're saying the wrong things in making the point.
SW-User
@UkBull okay, I completely understand you :)
I'll leave it to this because I have better things to do for now. I said what I could. I don't feel like dragging this cirle out farther

And uh >__>
When you say
I just think you're saying the wrong things in making the point
thats what I meant by semantics....
UkBull · 41-45, M
"I'm not talking shit, it's just semantics"... Haha, you're an idiot!
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's an interesting question.

Yes and no is my answer. Religious practice depends on interpretation. Interpretation is based on political, cultural, national and personal factors.
SW-User
I dont believe in Islamic terrorism
SW-User
@SimplyTracie to me, white race has been terrorising the whole world since the beginning of times... creading/leading/resulting in ISIS etc etc, and on top of that they used God to cover up their bloody deeds. Period
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@SW-User Maybe so But now there is ISIS. No one can deny that.
SW-User
@SimplyTracie There are people who deny that but thats a long story
katielass · F
Inherent in the "religion".
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
@katielass Inherent in all religions to a larger or lesser extent.
katielass · F
@UkBull I did a research paper more than 40 years ago about the rise of islam. There is a lot of evidence to support the claim that muslims have every intention of taking over the world and imposing their evil "religion" on everyone. And it cannot be denied that even those who do not physically participate in acts of terror approve of it.
katielass · F
@ThePerfectUsername There is no other "religion" that practices violence against anyone, much less people of other religions.
SW-User
I sont believe in Islamic terrorism
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SW-User
@lacsar lol whatever you say
we put the fun into fundamentalism..
UkBull · 41-45, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Ha ha I like this answer!
Jentlemen · 51-55, M
people who don't eat pork are crazy
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
I imagine it exists for the same reason that The Crusades existed... namely that some arsehole god botherer took it into his head to feel insulted by some other arshole god botherer who wouldn't relinquish his right to be a complete and utter prick.
katielass · F
@ThePerfectUsername The crusades were a reaction to islamic violence. So your ignorant comment makes no sense.
JP1119 · 36-40, M
All major religions have violent fundamentalists, Muslims just show up in the news more for some reason. Also, the Middle East has plenty of money, but not a lot of jobs. So what do the unemployed guys do to occupy their time? What’s that saying about the devil using idle hands?
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SW-User
if it was inherent in the religion then there wouldn’t be any other kind of terrorism, would it? sadly there is
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SW-User
@lacsar then it’s inherently in every religion
UkBull · 41-45, M
Furthermore, what's the answer?
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