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corally · 56-60, M
totally agree but the guy should still take responsibility for it to it is his as well

JarJarBoom · 41-45, F
I'm sorry, if a man has helped create a human being he has a responsibility to take care of something he helped create. Even though they are financially responsible (through child support) most men still choose to not be part of a child's life anyway so essentially what you are saying exists anyway. Ethically, we need more dads in the world and not sperm donors.
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@JarJarBoom I'm so with you! Thanks. Why should men be treated like half witted?
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JarJarBoom · 41-45, F
Arent we essentially letting other people making that decision for us when it come to legalities of the right to choose??
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Northwest · M
When two people, who are not married, engage in a sexual relationship. The end result is pleasure. There are no other legal obligations, but it's not much different from a business relationship, where both parties are aware of the risk associated, but decide to engage in the business venture, and as such, if this is a business, they are both liable for the outcome.

In a business relationship, one of the parties can reduce its liability, by asking for a change of course, and if the other party refuses, then the party that chose the original course of action, stands to pay more. If, however, no action was taken prior to a major business decision, both parties are equally liable.

In the case of a couple though, the point of no return, and up to that point, all decisions are reversible, is before a sperm's head penetrates a fertile egg. Everything else, beyond that, is irrelevant.

It's hard to explain all this to a teenager, but this would be no different if two 18 year old engage in a business venture, that created a set of liabilities.

The one thing that's missing today, is a legal framework to handle this situation. For instance, if I get someone pregnant, my payments to support her/the child, are not tax deductible (if we're no longer together, or this was a casual thing), but if we were married and got divorced, then spousal support is tax deductible. There are also some additional things, such as custody, etc.
gregloa · 61-69, M
What if the father wants the child but the woman doesn’t. Regardless he has no rights.
NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
@gregloa Good point.
Cierzo · M
🤦 There are already so many irresponsible people in our societies, we don't need more adult children.
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Cierzo · M
@Celine It is totally about biology.
Biology determines the whole situation.
Two people are necessary to make a baby. Only one to abort it.
There is no equality here. Equality plays no role.
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celine211 · 22-25, F
No!
I mean if he doesn't want to be present in the baby's life well then so be it but he has a duty to at least pitch in with money.

I don't understand how a person can be aware that out there there is a part of him and not want to be around that person..I just don't get it. Its YOUR child..your FLESH and BLOOD how can you wave that off and ignore it like its not existing.

You think its fare that both the man and woman did the deed and only the woman has to take full responsibility for it.

HELL TO THE NO.
katielass · F
@Celine I'd say he has a responsibility for his choice to have sex with her. Look, some things are just not "fair". For example, it's not fair that women are the ones who bear the children and doing that interferes with their careers, slowing it down so to speak. But it's just a fact that if you choose to be off for whatever reason, you must suffer the consequences. Same thing here. If you put it where it can make a baby you have a responsibility to help support it even if you do not choose to be a father to it. It's called.....life.
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ladycae · 100+, F
if you don/t want the responsibility of a child than either use birth control or abstain. the problem in far too often people want to play not pay. this isn't a cardboard box we are talking about it's a child. if you don't want one make sure you don't have a part in having one.
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ladycae · 100+, F
you keep leaving out the humanity celine. it is the woman who carries the child for 9 months or goes through the emotional and possible physical scarring of having an abortion. not the man. he always has thr right to go to court and say he doesn't want the child and sign away his rights but he gets no say in what a woman does with her body because it does not involve him in any way. it is her body and it is a human life.

there are many things in life that are but should not be. that's called life. if you play you pay. and this is my last post on this because you don't want to be realistic about it.
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Rhodesianman · 56-60, M
As I have told my boys if you don't want a child tie a knot in it or wear a condom or don't do it .
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MURD3RM0NK3Y · 26-30, M
Interesting. If the girl wants to keep the baby and the guy doesn’t then they should not have the baby period.
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@MURD3RM0NK3Y Who hoo! Bye bye condoms!
MURD3RM0NK3Y · 26-30, M
@SW-User Where the hoes at
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What if i want the baby and the mum does not, how about she goes through birth, then gives up the baby and all responsibilities to me?
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@Celine What if she's happy to have the baby and then give it to me? Is that okay? I'm aware of the repercussions of pregnancy, i'm over 10 years of age Lol
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@Celine Kinda sucks being a dude sometimes. I'd love to go through the process of having a baby and being looked at as the 'main' caregiver of that child.
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Personally, any couple stupid enough in this day and age to get pregnant with an unwanted child deserve to care for that child until adulthood, but that's not fair to the kid.

You bring up an interesting point, but you're going to get slammed for it.
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I am beginning to think you're a troll.
NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
@SW-User Which post was it meant for? Just curious. Lol :)
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@Celine I just said wrong post, sorry.

@NankerPhelge My own post... I had this open and was reading but wanted to reply to a friend I was bantering with as a banter on my post, you know? You don't need to test me. I don't troll.......it was just an error. X
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NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
katielass · F
Yeah, that will cause much weeping among the male sex.
Cream pies for everyone!!
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@Notmesam Oh My.🍯
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Bye bye condoms! Woo hoo![sep]
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