How do you feel about website fact checking?

While spelunking in the fowl bowels of this site as well as a few others I came across a site reference to https://schema.org/.

Going through that site I found some references to fact checking utility options.

I must note that while schema.org is claimed to be a consortium of Bing, Google and others. It's origins solely lay on Google.

There are apparently other such fact checking utilities. Open source is also one of them.

What I find quite foully odorous and obnoxious is what values do such sites have?

Google's values I have known for decades. I thoroughly and totally distrust them. Yet what of Open source or others?

How do you feel about this?

Must note, since this site is using scheme.org it's not out of the realm for them to start fact checking. They are using it for other purposes like search. Which brings up a whole other can of garbage. 😞

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Abstraction · 61-69, M

Google, facebook and tech giants have demonstrated that they no longer deserve the trust of society. They represent extreme corporate profiteering where ethics are little more than PR. They have misused their position, abuse our privacy and data to the 9th degree reading our emails and keeping databases on us, manipulate what we see, allow horrendous misuse of their platforms such as scams, terrorists... I'm glad they have fact-checking, but don't fully trust them. If the facts were against their business interests, for instance?

Here is the best fact checker I've found. No wiki, this is done by highly qualified professionals in the field without pay or allegiance to this site. There is no one answer, they can disagree. You wander through their discussion and draw your own conclusions.
https://metafact.io/

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@Abstraction I'll look into them, yet I have reservations because of unknown coding practices.

You see it's these utilities that are the problem not necessarily the organizations themselves.

"The whole is the sum of it's parts."

DDonde · 31-35, M

@DeWayfarer What utiltities? Google is not a utility

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@DDonde https://schema.org/.

It's a consortium. As well as Open source's utility. I have no idea what it's called.

It's vaguely mentioned in

https://schema.org/.

lovelywarpedlemon

we are all literally being sold, our thoughts become part of the machine under the guise of convenience. but we also can have powerful influence, where it's allowed. nonetheless, anonymity is a real joke if you know just a little bit of computer coding. any time you go online you are being watched--not only watched and observed, but studied, analyzed, and categorized. it's a fact.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@lovelywarpedlemon

...anonymity is a real joke if you know just a little bit of computer coding. any time you go online you are being watched--not only watched and observed, but studied, analyzed, and categorized. it's a fact.

That's why I mentioned...

Must note, since this site is using scheme.org it's not out of the realm for them to start fact checking. They are using it for other purposes like search. Which brings up a whole other can of garbage.

lovelywarpedlemon

@DeWayfarer ah then there's nothing more to add i guess, the only way to avoid the corruption online is to be entirely offline. sometimes i think about ditching it... i wish it wasn't so.

SW-User

I don't know about the sites you are talking about, but when I see something dubious on line I want to check whether it's factual, and Snopes is often useful for that.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@SW-User I'm talking about this site being the biggest issue.

For all I know snopes could be using this very utility. I haven't checked their bowl movement yet! 😖

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@DeWayfarer Snopes has been around for a long time, and was formerly known as the Urban Legends Reference Page. It's about as old as the internet itself, and as far as I can tell, they are reliable.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LordShadowfire yet are they using these types of utilities?

I don't know.

And if not why haven't they made their own utilities?

You see they could jump on this bandwagon themselves quite easily. Open source would likely welcome them.

JHNTHN · 36-40, M

I'm torn on it. Part of me wants to see false information stopped, and another part of me wants to see the general public grow up and use their brains. Of course, there's the problem with fact-checkers having bias and flagging anything they don't like.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@JHNTHN totally agreed! I'm torn as well. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@jshm2 Ok! Yet I did ask for YOUR opinion! 😂

𝓗𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝓰𝓸𝓸𝓭 𝓭𝓪𝔂! 😊

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

The question, as always, is, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" (Who will guard the guards?) Or in this case, who will fact check the fact checkers?

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LordShadowfire agreed. Again though Open source is fairly up front on their code.

Yet I still have qualms about their values.

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