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DeWayfarer 路 61-69, M
If you happen to remember the bad old DOS days, top of a listing could often scroll off the screen. That key was to stop that from happening on IBMDOS. It first came out on the IBM AT keyboard. Unfortunately few small programs actually monitored that key stroke like the MSDOS dir command didn't. IMBDOS actually did use it.
Eventually a pause (dir /p) option was put in on MSDOS. And IBMDOS became extinct. Yet today's keyboards are all modelled on IBM AT keyboards. Even the IBM PSII keyboard had that scroll lock key.
However before the "/p" option we had to use the pipe operator to prevent that from happening on MSDOS.
Dir|more
Since
Dir > more
wouldn't work either.
Lots of useless knowledge from back then. 馃槥
Eventually a pause (dir /p) option was put in on MSDOS. And IBMDOS became extinct. Yet today's keyboards are all modelled on IBM AT keyboards. Even the IBM PSII keyboard had that scroll lock key.
However before the "/p" option we had to use the pipe operator to prevent that from happening on MSDOS.
Dir|more
Since
Dir > more
wouldn't work either.
Lots of useless knowledge from back then. 馃槥
twiigss 路 M
@DeWayfarer DOS was my intro to computers. And when wincrap 95 came out, it was so bad I uninstalled 95, and went back to DOS for a while. And that was because DOS just worked. 95 was nothing but crashing. It was like, you hook up a printer, BSOD. Or if you wanted to install a program from 3.5" disk, BSOD. It was like I couldn't do anything with it. I did switch over from DOS to Windows 98SE. Yes, that OS had its fair share of problems, but nothing like 95 did.
Windows itself is a pain because programs made for Windows only work in Windows, okay understandable. But when I knew something would work right in DOS, and it wasn't working right in Windows, I would backdoor Windows by doing it through DOS. I think it's a shame they got rid of Windows sitting on top of DOS. Everything worked just fine. You had DOS 6.22 installed and then your PC boots into Windows. If you wanted DOS it was right there.
But I'm glad DosBox was created. I don't have to break out my old PC for everything DOS, I can do it right here on this computer. Mostly just DOS gaming. My old PC with MSDOS 6.2 installed I copied over a couple files to here, like Edit and Scandisk (but I never use the DOS Scandisk, unless it's on a 3.5" disk)
Windows itself is a pain because programs made for Windows only work in Windows, okay understandable. But when I knew something would work right in DOS, and it wasn't working right in Windows, I would backdoor Windows by doing it through DOS. I think it's a shame they got rid of Windows sitting on top of DOS. Everything worked just fine. You had DOS 6.22 installed and then your PC boots into Windows. If you wanted DOS it was right there.
But I'm glad DosBox was created. I don't have to break out my old PC for everything DOS, I can do it right here on this computer. Mostly just DOS gaming. My old PC with MSDOS 6.2 installed I copied over a couple files to here, like Edit and Scandisk (but I never use the DOS Scandisk, unless it's on a 3.5" disk)
DeWayfarer 路 61-69, M
@twiigss guy! I was in computers before even the apple IIC came out! I was on a card reader!
There was a huge difference between IBM and MS DOS!
There was a huge difference between IBM and MS DOS!
twiigss 路 M
@DeWayfarer I didn't get into computers until sometime in the mid 1980's, as I was born later than you. So I'm not as familiar with the things you are.
DeWayfarer 路 61-69, M
@twiigss exactly! And why I know about the IBM AT keyboard oh so darn well!
FurryFace 路 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer i used to program in GWBasic my great days , i miss Dos
twiigss 路 M
@DeWayfarer but, I got used to dir /p and one I would use to search for a certain file is dir /s /p or to organize a directory search dir /o /p. And then when the screen gets all filled, CLS is a good way to just get back to seeing a C:\> prompt.
DeWayfarer 路 61-69, M
@FurryFace GW was on the Apple IIe as well. But I was mostly programming in either Merlin assembly or dBase II on the Apple. Later built my DOS machine. An AT clone with IBM DOS then upgraded to MS DOS and started some real programming in turbo pascal (later Borland Pascal).
I could go on and on and on. And that's just what the both of you might be familiar with. Before all that I was on a HP 3000 with MPE as the operating system programming in COBOL II. 馃ゴ
I could go on and on and on. And that's just what the both of you might be familiar with. Before all that I was on a HP 3000 with MPE as the operating system programming in COBOL II. 馃ゴ
DeWayfarer 路 61-69, M
@twiigss used the /a:d /w later for wide and directory in my autoexec.bat and whole bunch of other stuff like spinning slashes with the prompt command.
twiigss 路 M
@DeWayfarer I took computer class in 10th grade in 1992, we learned COBOL.
It did nothing for me, I wish we could have learned C# or C++. Friend of mine went to DeVry college for 3 years for C++ and AS400, and he taught me C++ but that was over 20 years ago and I don't remember much of it anymore. I never really programmed with QBasic, but I have tried and I got the C64 Maxi that was released and am learning basic on there.
It did nothing for me, I wish we could have learned C# or C++. Friend of mine went to DeVry college for 3 years for C++ and AS400, and he taught me C++ but that was over 20 years ago and I don't remember much of it anymore. I never really programmed with QBasic, but I have tried and I got the C64 Maxi that was released and am learning basic on there.
DeWayfarer 路 61-69, M
@twiigss that would likely have been COBOL III. But believe me you can do worse than COBOL. RPG II was worse. 馃槚
Was programming in that in 1979 in a JC in Wyoming.
Was programming in that in 1979 in a JC in Wyoming.