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I don't believe that computers will become conscious.

Conscious beings weren't assembled from manmade parts strewn together from factories around the world. We were created organically in our mother's womb.

An automatic sweeper, for example, can't look at a floor, recognize that it's dirty and needs to be cleaned, and then clean it. It just rolls around and sucks because we told it to. And even if we come out with ones that only go to work when the floor is dirty, it STILL didn't determine that by itself. It's not conscious.

We can make machines more intelligent but intelligence is not consciousness.

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JuniperEmz · 22-25, F

Maybe not human consciousness but maybe that akin to some other animals that act purely on instinct? I think that's more the similarity

legodood · M

@JuniperEmz Hmmm...that's a rather fascinating concept.

PrincessVelvet · F

SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M

@PrincessVelvet Is that the robot from Short Circuit?

legodood · M

Consciousness is different from sentience, and it might be theoretically possible to program a computer (in whatever vessel it redides in, ala a replicant - my shoutout to the 40th anniversary of Blade Runner) to become technically conscious on some level. However, that level will still be way below animal or human consciousness.
OTOH, to 'develop' a truly sentient being is a whole nutha ballgame.

pride49 · 31-35, M

Enjoy your religion 💅

SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M

@pride49 It's not about religion.

pride49 · 31-35, M

@SinlessOnslaught do you believe self learning ai is impossible?

SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M

@pride49 No

redredred · M

I think a clever enough bit of software could allow a device to learn subtleties, make inferences and accumulate experience. In time, perhaps lots of time, that might be consciousness. We really don’t understand it fully since, obviously, it’s the brain trying to understand the brain.

That might be the conceptual limit of our understanding.

TrashCat · M

I've heard this same argument before and I say poppycock

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TrashCat · M

@SinlessOnslaught It's in your post!

SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M

@TrashCat Oh I see what you're saying. Look. You said,

A highly-technical machine can scan a floor surface and determine if it has debris on it.

My response to that is,

An automatic sweeper, for example, can't look at a floor, recognize that it's dirty and needs to be cleaned, and then clean it. It just rolls around and sucks because we told it to. And even if we come out with ones that only go to work when the floor is dirty, it STILL didn't determine that by itself. It's not conscious.

legodood · M

@TrashCat Vincent Price,you do get bonus points for posting a famous gif from one of the greatest horror films of all time. 👏

ButterRobot · 51-55, M

i think they'll end up with something that looks like consciousness. But given we dont really know what consciousness is , its a bit tricky,

fakable

you are wrong

DDonde · 31-35, M

We can make them in theory as intelligent as a conscious being, but we can't make them conscious. No innovation in computing or in any algorithm will make it conscious if it's missing the hardware for it.

SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M

@DDonde Yep. They'll only do what we tell them to do. They'll never "take over".

DDonde · 31-35, M

@SinlessOnslaught We can create learning algorithms where the outcome becomes unpredictable. But in order for an AI to take over we would have to hand over a lot to an AI algorithm which would be kind of stupid of us. And at no point would it be sentient, even though it's "learning".

ninalanyon · 61-69, T

@SinlessOnslaught

They'll only do what we tell them to do.

Which we did you have in mind? You can bet it won't include thee and me.

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