its bigotry to ask "what is a woman?" so you all better not do it.. damn bigots

@Kwek00 and yet he is not wrong

@Torsten He's not right either... that's what you get when you don't define your terms and use abstracts when you talk about complicated toppics. People that agree will fill in their own little narrative and go: "he's not wrong" and people that see understand that there is stuff missing will go: "well he's not right either".

That's the magic of ambiguity. However, ambiguity in your bills, is nasty business. Because ones they are signed, they become the working tools of the judicial branch. And then then the judiciairy will interpretate the law as they see fit. And if that judge is in the first camp it will do damadge to all those examples that become a victim of bad definitions. And if the judge rules in favor of the second camp all the people that were cheering about the simplicity of a bill dealing with complex matters will start yelling that judges are legeslating from the bench.

@Kwek00 I agree he was not always right, as i pointed out on this thread post. He is correct though that men can not get pregnant and anyone who claims otherwise are idiots

@Torsten Well, yeah, because you also conflate gender and biological-sex. What's new Torsten?

@Kwek00 so you think men can get pregnant?

@Torsten I'm sure transexual males that still have their womb can get pregnant. Which is pretty much what that woman is defending. The Blaze cut out a lot of that discussion, there is no reference to any of the names, there is no source to the transcript, ... but, they only did half work. Because she clearly speaks about gender at 2:40 and not biological sex. Which is kinda hard to argue against considering that there are transexual males that delivered babies, but by being ambiguous we allow this republican politician to be all offended because he's lazy and refuses to define his terms.

@Kwek00 that is a woman living as a man getting pregnant. So i ask you again, do you think men can get pregnant?

@Torsten
[quote]@Kwek00 that is a woman living as a man getting pregnant. So i ask you again, do you think men can get pregnant?[/quote]

I answered the question Torsten. You can be just as dense as the guy the Blaze is giving a pedestal here, but I don't need to pamper to that.

@Kwek00 yes or no?

@PurplePumpkin

[quote]@Kwek00 They can get pregnant 'cause of the biologica factors, not 'cause what they choose to identify as.[/quote]

No one is denying that... that's why she literally says "gender" at 2:40. She is talking about gender. The other guy is talking about ... well who knows? Because you never hear him say biology or gender. I guess the guy just denies that reality or something, because he doesn't interact with her at all on the gender point. It's a bit like talking to a libertarian about positive freedoms, they just can't handle a deeper conversation I guess.

[quote]I just saw the clip taken out of context so maybe this is argued as a detail of a bigger whole, that should not be argued in this way if you see the whole context?[/quote]

No idea, I don't have the time to look it up. And I tried this morning when I had more time to find out who these people were. But the Blaze either doesn't like it that people look up what they feed their public OR they know that they can get their followers aren't intrested enough to understand the full context of what they cherry pick and present to their viewers.

I do think if you want to have a strong opinion on something, that you might want to dig further instead of just watching a propaganda channel and going: "well this make so much sense". It's the equivalent of believing that Gillette is the best the man can get, because the commercials told you so.

@Torsten You are not defininig your Terms Torsten, so then I'll have to define them for you and answer the question accordingly. Which I did, you can reread it, I didn't erase it or anything. Just put it under the right bracket.

@Kwek00 defining my terms? I am asking you a very basic question to get a simple answer out of you. You dont need to try and explain around it, its a yes or no answer.
You not answering it though as simply a yes or no thing, gives it right away that you do believe men can get pregnant because biological women living as men can get pregnant, correct?

@Torsten
[quote]You not answering it though as simply a yes or no thing, gives it right away that you do believe men can get pregnant because biological women living as men can get pregnant, correct?[/quote]

I find it strange that you start by saying that I not answered your question. While I said:

[quote]@Torsten [b]I'm sure transexual males that still have their womb can get pregnant.[/b] [...] Which is kinda hard to argue against considering that there are transexual males that delivered babies [...][/quote]

So I agree with that statement after the terms have been cleaned up: "[...] [i]you do believe that[/i] [b]a segment of people that identify as males[/b] [i]can get pregnant because biological women living as men can get pregnant, correct?[/i]". And we are not just saying "men", because that's again that confusion about terms. As if the word "man" can only be applied to biological males. Something that we would never casually do in our daily lifes, but certain people want to claim that word for all kinds of reasons (that includes bigotry btw).