Using common sense seems to elude some...

@Ontheroad the typical lib response when one refuses to accept your lib nonsense.

Biden refused to help fortify schools but sent billions to the Ukraine. Libs don’t prosecute and choose the release violent criminals to reoffend , but some how the freedoms of law abiding citizens are the cause?

@Ontheroad
completely irrelevant. pretty much any firearm could be made to "look like" a so called "assault rifle" to the uneducated. To a liberal, my old Tippman A5 paintball gun probably fits their definition of an "assault rifle"; it's black, has an adjustable stock, holds more than 30 rounds and can fire over 15 balls a second...

and weapon effectiveness depends solely on the user, not the weapon itself; and quite frankly, society should be thankful that the majority of these active shooters are uneducated, undisciplined morons...

against unarmed soft targets, a vehicle or explosives would be far more effective against a large group of people; and needless to say, a vehicle is easy to obtain, and most explosives can be manufactured with commercially available chemicals (terrorists have been using TATP for decades which is little more than hydrogen peroxide and acetone)

Whether the gun control advocates attack firearm ownership in it's totality, or whittle it down bit by bit, the end result is the same... (as has occurred in dozens of countries with little to no reduction in total crimes)

and as the UK and practically every middle eastern and north african country is evidence of, if you remove one type of weapon available to the public, they'll just find or improvise another...

As Samuel Colt put it, guns are the great equalizer. With them, even someone with little physical strength and training can overcome a superior enemy; without them, that margin widens; a stronger enemy can attack with more confidence.

People who argue about what firearms they think we "don't need" are precisely the reason we do need them. No criminal, group, or even government would knowingly attack someone armed with superior weapons.

And for the record, M16's haven't been fully automatic since the 80's (the m1 version), all later versions are single and burst only...

@SW-User
That's a lovely sentiment. And let me be clear since you have implied several times to the contrary, I do, of course, care and would never want to see harm come to innocent children and animals.

Unfortunately though, bad things happen to children everyday, all over the world. Here are multiple stories of children being murdered in Ireland.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10824061/Anguished-mothers-words-toddlers-killer-jailed-life-murder-Ireland.html
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-woman-accused-murdering-three-children-named-publically
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330526/Irelands-day-horror-children-murdered-fathers.html


Uh huh. And what changes are to be made? There are multiple different ideas out there, but you seem to have made your choice(or had it made for you) and there is no further debate, your solution is the partisan solution.


That is propaganda straight from the DNC.

Are you aware that the Democrats were in charge during the Virginia Tech and Sandy Hook shootings?
Do you remember Columbine? The Democrats were in charge then and guess what they blamed for the shootings? Violent video games and violent Hollywood movies...

I'm so bored of Western Europeans having highly selective visions of America that comes from their well curated, biased choice of media.

Fix your own fucking country. Or if you are so inclined, emigrate to America, become a citizen, and take some responsibility for changing things instead of sitting on your high horse spewing Democrat propaganda.

@SumKindaMunster My apologies, I take that back.

OK, fine. As an American yourself, what would you like to see change that might actually guard against unspeakable events like Uvalde, Sandy Hook, Columbine, etc. happening again (this is not a challenge to you)?

That's deflection. You know as well as I do that unspeakable things happen everywhere in the world. However, mass shootings do not...

...as, I daresay, it was once propaganda from the RNC.

The fact is, at this moment in time, the NRA see Republican politicians as the best way of maintaining the status quo, re guns, just as they doubtless did with Democrats in the past. With pressure building to enact meaningful gun control, the Republicans, at this precise moment in time, can follow their principles and enact some bipartisan legislation that maybe, just maybe, will save some innocent lives. At this moment in time, they are choosing not to.

I notice that you're all about "indoctrination". Are you immune from indoctrination? What sources do you rely on? Are they across the political spectrum... (again not a challenge).

ok chill out. I'm doing my best. I vote Green, I'm a vegetarian, I donate to charities, I occasionally volunteer for community projects. Relax (and note my apology at the top).

@SW-User
As already stated, the name of the game is compromise and cooperation. So that would likely encompass a variety of ideas from both sides including:

Restrictions on assault style rifles and weapons
Restrictions on high capacity magazines and lethal bullets
"Smart guns"
National initiative to collect data to identify and intervene on individuals who might be planning a gun violence event(red flag laws)
Closing loopholes that allow individuals to not register their guns
Increasing the age at which a person can buy an assault rifle or other types of mass killing weapons.

This of course would require a complete do over of the current political environment which revels in blaming the other side, promising to change things if elected, then never fulfilling those promises. And every 2-4 years we complete the same dance.


It's not "deflection", I am not trying to dismiss your argument, I'm calling you out for your hysteria regarding these children in Texas and suggesting you gain some perspective on the issue.


I would again call your attention to previous school shootings in the past during Democrat administrations. They chose to do little to nothing, and of course scapegoated the Republicans and NRA for the problem then as well.

Did you know America passed assault weapon laws in the 90's?


It expired and we haven't attempted to compromise on the issue since. That includes the tail end of the Clinton Administration as well as Obama's administration, both Democrats.


I'm all about pointing out the lies and propaganda that people on here spew as their own, when in fact it comes from authoritative sources that they trust. My focus is to call that out and question how much of what they said they actually thought through and validated through critical thinking.

I read Reuters, AP and news aggregates for general news. I read BBC and Al Jazeera for other perspectives and opinions and I subscribe to several journalists on Substack that I have chosen to trust including Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, and Michael Tracy.

No, I am not immune from "indoctrination" but I've consoled myself with the fact that many times I am correct about things that take a long time to come to light...some recent examples include: the ineffectiveness of the Covid 19 vaccines in preventing the spread of Covid, the authenticity of the Hunter Biden laptop, the political witch hunt that sought to demonstrate that Trump was a Russian asset.

Additionally I am willing to admit I am wrong at times..recent example: I did not believe the West when they said Russia's invasion of Ukraine was imminent, I assumed it was a political ploy to put pressure on Russia..well I was wrong about that...


I am relaxed. We are just talking here. I use strong words and phrases to portray my passion and interest, I am not angry with you and am not upset by your beliefs and statements...doesn't mean I agree, but I am not upset. 😉

@redredred Great plan! The only problem is paying salaries and training for all the armed guards for 100,000+ US public schools buildings.

Since the only reason school armed guards are needed is to protect the sacred rights of assault weapons owners, how about we finance the guards with a property tax on all assault weapons. Sounds perfect!!

Or do you have some other funding mechanism in mind?

@redredred We can certainly rely on the 'Conservatives' to appropriate every dollar that it takes to do that, maybe even donate a few from the donations they receive from the NRA? Better yet maybe their King and multi-Billionaire (the builder) will donate it from his 'Charity Foundation' ? Everybody knows that he would run into a school, without a gun, if he heard gun shots from inside, what a guy, huh.

@redredred Most ludicrous comment I've seen in a long time. Banks are a for profit institution and they're going to safeguard the money whatever the cost and we end up paying for it one way or another. Children are a valuable resource but there is absolutely no reason to turn schools into armed prisons to satisfy the gun fetishism of a select few, according to your logic, everywhere should be built like banks so that the right to own AR15's can be protected, malls and grocery stores, theaters and airports should all be built like banks, no matter the cost. There is nothing in the 2nd Amendment that specifies the type of weapons we are allowed to bear so why would banning AR15's be a violation of 2nd Amendment Rights? Seeing as the AR15 is the most sold rifle in the US, it's more about the profits of the gun manufacturers being protected, isn't it... 😖

@ElwoodBlues The murder rate has not gone down in Canada since the gun restrictions. It didn't go up when the gun registry was 'eliminated' by the last government either. Only the method changed.

@hippyjoe1955 Got a link? Evidence??
Of course not!!

BTW, what makes you think the gun supply and murder rate will react instantly to changes in classification?

@ElwoodBlues His answer to similar questions has been, "Do your own research, and do try to keep up."

@softspokenman (added) On CBS Mornings. News today 6/9/2022 7am MT here. The report was brought up but they didn't want to detail it because it was 'Breakfast' time.
Maybe those GOP Senators who don't want to destroy the 2nd Amendment by putting too many restrictions on gun controls should see the pictures of those children's bodies at Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner until it finally sinks in.

@softspokenman Yeah, Uvalde native (and movie star) Matthew McConaughey mentioned how those 5.56 rounds leave huge exit wounds. Sometimes they had to identify the body thru a bracelet or shoes because there wasn't enough recognizable flesh.

Some kinds of ammo make a clean hole and leave a linear track thru the body. But those kids were shot with soft point or hollow point that expands upon impact and makes a huge nasty bloody mess. It's not a kind of ammo you would use for hunting; you don't want bone fragments all thru your meet or the hide torn up with giant exit wounds. That ammo is specifically designed to kill humans.

@ElwoodBlues I did see that 👍 He also said that his mother taught at a kinder garden about a mile away. 'I am a different man, I've changed, my children have changed...'

Hasn't everyone of us changed since that day ?

@Subalugirl Sad, but true. I think it's better stated as not being able to think past the "I" and actually have at least a little empathy for others.

I just have a difficult time understanding how having the right to own a gun, when put on a scale, balances out to be more valuable that than saving a life.

@Ontheroad Yeah may be but every one has different thoughts, check your message

@Ontheroad There had to have been close to a dozen and maybe more things that went wrong in Texas. A Door that didn't lock. A missing security officer. Cops that stood there with their fingers up their asses while the shooting took place. A swat team that apparently no one knew where they were or how to contact them. A breakdown in communication between the cops on the scene and 911 operators. Any one of these could have prevented or at least reduced the number of deaths,. And there's still a question of why the guy wasn't on anyone's radar, or maybe he was and they didn't follow through. Why is no one interested in fixing the things that have a higher probability of saving lives than some new gun law? Please, think of the children.

@Jackaloftheazuresand My favorite poptart is cherry ❤️