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Does Anyone Know The Flat-Earth "Conspiracy"?

TBLman has posted umpteen threads here asserting that the Earth is a flat disc stationary in Space, with no gravity, and the other celestial bodies (presumably) orbiting it.

He has not invented this. So don't blame him.

There are assorted videos, blogs or whatever on t'Net pushing the idea as dogma that Shall Not Be Questioned, and he's apparently gained his ideas from these. They can be nasty, the people making these, too; calling anyone who questions them, a liar or an idiot; or using a trick common in the form of domestic abuse called in law, "coercive & controlling behaviour"..

Their common theme is that only they are telling the truth and we have all been taught a gigantic lie about spherical planets and the heliocentric, Solar System... but why would we be; and by whom?

The geocentric model was pushed for centuries by the Church, for their power; but ironically it was a model devised by a pagan (in their eyes) - the pre-Christian, non-Jewish Classical Greek, Aristotle, whose own religion was of a soap-opera pantheon. Its attraction was of simple arrogance, placing Man (literally and figuratively, 'man') at the centre of the Universe. Eventually the Church of Rome conceded Galileo and his contemporaries were right, though it took it 400 years to swallow its pride and apologise to their memories. The Vatican even has it own observatory now.

In FE-ist eyes, the heliocentric and gravity model is heresy, designed as part of, or supporting a mysterious "conspiracy"; but a conspiracy of what? Not itself because that would gain nothing for the conspirators - apart from ridicule.

TBLman told me the conspiracy is extremely complicated, but not what it is, suggesting as many explanations as adherents. It would have to be complicated to have originated in centuries past, yet still be maintained around the world even today; with no evident purpose or beneficiaries.

(As guide to age, Renaissance paintings sometime show globes. These were mapped, though not ever so accurately, by the early mariners who set forth from European countries to "discover new" lands... usually so their own countries could conquer them.)

One present-day example is a certain Eric Dubay, a yoga instructor, who calls his version "The Atlantean Conspiracy". At least he is civil about it, but his long list of images and short texts to show only his basic lack of geographical or simple physics, knowledge.

A 19C example was a grocer, later hotelier, falsely pretending to be a "professor", in the Dakota spa-town of Hot Springs. I'd name him but, sorry, I have lost the reference. His very strange model depicted the known world as not itself flat, but as a toroidal dish, like a roulette wheel, in the middle of a huge, square slab of rock. He did not seem to pretend any conspiracies but claimed Biblical "proof", and made money from selling his pamphlets about it! There is a Wikipedia entry about him, with a facsimile of his cod-Renaissance drawing of Planet Roulette-wheel.

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So probably no single, cohesive, coherent FE model, and probably no single, coherent "conspiracy"..

Yet they go to such lengths to call all the rest of us, fools and liars!

The supreme irony of these anti-science types though, is that they use the Internet to push it.
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If he wants to prove it all he has to do is sail to the edge and take a selfie falling off.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@robingoodfellow FE conspiracy theorists say that Antarctica is the outer edge, and that it's guarded by military forces to keep people from figuring out it's the edge. 😆
@LordShadowfire just out of curiosity, what is the reason they so badly need to keep the true shape of the earth a secret?
What happens if the masses discover we're not on a globe?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@robingoodfellow This is where we really go down the rabbit hole. You see, the Bible says the Earth is flat. (It actually does if you research it, LOL.) So by saying the Earth is round, and keeping up the lie that it's not only round, but not remotely the center of the universe, the Satanic NWO lizard demons are succeeding in discrediting the Bible.
@LordShadowfire
A dissertation on what I learned on SW today
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Enlightenment is dead.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@robingoodfellow That's what puzzles me; why the alleged secrecy?

I think different FE enthusiasts have different takes on it, but one notion is that the Antarctic continent holds some secret [nation?] that has not yet been discovered and is being kept hidden.

No, I don't how you hide an entire land-mass either, especially one yet yet found. They probably mean it's known but not been visited; but even Google Earth has photographed most of Antarctica.

I've no idea what "satanic NWO lizard demons are" but the 19C roulette-wheel model does have the totally featureless spandrels between our hemi-toroidal "world" and the edge of the square slab, guarded by angels that scale to a few thousand miles tall!

The problem with too slavish an adherence to the Bible is that it discredits not only its ancient writers, but ultimately God by essentially denying vast swathes of what, if I were a devout Christian, I would celebrate as all part of His work. The Bible is not an astronomical treatise or physics text-book anyway, nor pretends to be. However, I have the impression that religion may not be the driver for a lot of FE fans' belief.

The late-17C or early 18C introduced 'The Age of Enlightenment' when people started to lose their fear of natural phenomena, and instead to try to understand them. They still saw Nature as God's work, but were interested to discover how it works - if you like, how God makes it happen. We are still learning, because each new discovery, each new advance in methods, brings new puzzles to solve.

Sometimes I wonder if we entering a new "age", The Age of Ignorance - certainly of very deep confusion and scepticism; but it is not the lively, healthy scepticism that drives knowledge. Instead, a malign, cold scepticism intended and manipulated to suppress knowledge.

So why?

Maybe some people see the world as facing so many difficulties and becoming so insecure, that they feel helpless and overwhelmed.So they find some solace in ideas defying and denying anything rational or logical;, but providing comforting, quick-fix answers.

I don't know, and obviously we cannot generalise too shallowly, but it is strange that so many such escapees are citizens of some of the most technically-advanced, highest living-standard, best-educated societies.
@ArishMell right now we're in a time where people feel the need to invent realities that allow them to distrust authority, science and government. I'm not sure why this has coalesced like this at this point in time. On equal levels it's fascinating and frightening.